Template:Did you know nominations/Dock Ellis

Dock Ellis

 * ... that Dock Ellis pitched a no-hitter while under the influence of LSD?
 * Reviewed: Third QPQ of three from Template:Did you know nominations/Lucinda Whitty, Olivia Price, Nina Curtis
 * Comment: It might be a tick under 5x still, but it's a sizeable expansion already (from about 3.5 kb to 18.5 kb so far), and I may be able to get it to 19 or 20kb.

Created/expanded by Muboshgu (talk). Self nom at 02:07, 14 July 2012 (UTC)




 * Symbol confirmed.svg QPQ done. No images to check copyright in article.
 * Symbol possible vote.svg June 25 size is 650 words. Expansion required is 3250. Article sits at 3186.  Not quite there.
 * Symbol question.svg BLP concerns with hook. --LauraHale (talk) 03:46, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Fix length, propose alt hook and will finish review. Please comment here AND on my talk page when this is done so I can finish it. --LauraHale (talk) 03:46, 14 July 2012 (UTC)


 * DYK expansion is based on characters, no? Not words. Also, the individual is no longer alive, so no BLP concern. His having pitched the no-hitter on LSD is something he was proud of, too, so this isn't a negative comment on the individual in any way. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:26, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Also I added a non-free image to illustrate the subject, not proposing it for the front page as it's not free. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:49, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
 * DYK Checker is telling me it fails. : / Hence, the manual examination to determine why it failed and it still says not long enough. : / Willing to be swayed on hook issue once size issue addressed. --LauraHale (talk) 19:59, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Lessee... based on DYK Checker, it was 3,689 characters (650 words) in late June, and now it's 18,322 characters (3,186 words) . 5x more characters is 18445, so I am just under right now, but can get over real easy. 5x the number of words would be 3250, which is also easy to obtain. Since I just started the expansion less than 24 hours ago, I'll have it over 5x without any bending of the 5x rule to okay a 4.9x expansion within the 5 day window. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:34, 14 July 2012 (UTC)


 * General comment unrelated to article: DYKcheck is not perfect. Sometimes it says an article is not 5X when it is really 5.1X or something.  This might be because some version prior to the relevant one was longer (possibly from random character vandalism even) or it could just be a bug. --ThaddeusB (talk) 05:27, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Symbol redirect vote4.png That's true. This article is now 18,697 characters (3250 words). – Muboshgu (talk) 18:18, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Long enough. I feel comfortable enough about drug use thing on main page (but still worry about blowback so be warned mover). --LauraHale (talk) 05:43, 22 July 2012 (UTC)