Template:Did you know nominations/Dorsey Crowe


 * The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as |this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:34, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Dorsey Crowe

 * ... that in response to an accusation of buying votes for 50 cents each, Chicago alderman Dorsey Crowe (pictured as an Air Service Lieutenant) stated "Madame, you can't get that done for 50 cents. It costs $5."? Source:"When a woman once accosted him saying that he only won his last election against two Independent candidates in 1959 because he paid fifty cents to each one who voted for him, he replied in blunt, typical machine alderman fashion:'Madame, you can't get that done for 50 cents. It costs $5.'," Rogues, Rebels, and Rubber Stamps:The Politics of the Chicago City Council from 1863 to the present (https://books.google.com/books?id=6FbHvgD7hkcC&pg=PA99&lpg=PA99&dq=dorsey+crowe+chicago+alderman&source=bl&ots=qKjLvUvu_j&sig=lN-bqvgxzARqGmwnO-iNKh0bi1c&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjusdK4jLLdAhXq5YMKHXkjDMgQ6AEwBHoECAYQAQ#v=onepage&q=dorsey%20crowe%20chicago%20alderman&f=false)
 * ALT1:... that Chicago alderman Dorsey Crowe (pictured as an Air Service Lieutenant), who was first elected on a sympathy vote after surviving a plane crash, would serve for 43 years? Source: "He was first elected on accident - literally. Crowe...was serving as an army aviator in 1919. ...His plane crashed in Lincoln Park. Crowe, campaigning on crutches, won a sympathy vote," Chicago Politics, Ward by Ward (https://books.google.com/books?id=wrYGjB8Ixq0C&pg=PA276&lpg=PA276&dq=dorsey+crowe&source=bl&ots=bMLk2RpR46&sig=eDF4cF4LdbD2axV2G_z0bUpMKoA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwir86aNs63dAhVB_4MKHXJCCCwQ6AEwA3oECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q=dorsey%20crowe&f=false) and the Centennial List (http://chsmedia.org/media/fa/fa/LIB/AldermansList.htm)
 * ALT2: ... that Chicago alderman Dorsey Crowe (pictured as an Air Service Lieutenant) on two separate occasions fell 800 ft from a crashing plane and was thrown through the roof of an automobile, surviving both incidents? Source:Chicago Tribune (https://www.newspapers.com/image/355151647/ and https://www.newspapers.com/image/355150105/)

Moved to mainspace by John M Wolfson (talk). Self-nominated at 03:59, 15 September 2018 (UTC).


 * Comment: I don't know why it isn't linking to the page. In case I shouldn't added any Wiki formatting the page is here. My great apologies John M Wolfson (talk) 04:30, 15 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Formatting fixed. — Maile (talk) 23:44, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
 * (Not reviewing; just a casual observation.) With just a quick glance at the article, ALT2 does not appear to be supported. It mentions just one plane crash, and does not say where he landed. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  19:06, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
 * There was only one plane crash, I meant that he survived both a plane crash and a car accident. However, the source I gave didn't specifically mention that he was thrown through the roof of the car, but this https://www.newspapers.com/image/355150741/ does. Hope that helps! John M Wolfson (talk) 19:38, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah. I read it as saying that he had the extraordinarily unlikely experience of being in two plane crashes, both times landing through a car roof. Maybe it's just me. I'll leave it to you and the reviewer to decide if and how it should be reworded. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  20:12, 16 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:52, 5 October 2018 (UTC)


 * I would accept AL2, but I'd like a second opinion since I'm not a DYK regular. L293D (☎ • ✎) 14:08, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your feedback. I noticed you marked this as reviewed. Does this mean that there won't be more people coming in to review this? (This is my first DYK). -John M Wolfson (talk) 15:32, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree with Mandarax; ALT2 is literally false. How do you feel about ALT3? You will need to add reference in the article to being thrown through the roof of the car per the DYK criteria. Catrìona (talk) 04:43, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
 * ALT3:... that Chicago alderman Dorsey Crowe (pictured) survived an 800-foot fall from a plane and being thrown through the roof of a car?
 * I think that would be fine given a conversion to metric per below. I believe this supports his being thrown through the automobile roof. EDIT: It's also cited inline in the article. --John M Wolfson (talk) 19:46, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
 * ALT4:... that Chicago alderman Dorsey Crowe (pictured) survived falling 800 ft from a plane and being thrown through the roof of a car?
 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review still needed; striking ALT2 per prior comments. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:41, 13 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Symbol question.svg OK, let's see what we have here: Article is long/new enough, QPQ not needed since user has less than 5 nominations, article is neutral, sources are strong, images are appropriate, and no obvious copyright violations. Now, here are a few issues that need to be addressed:
 * (1) There are multiple things in the infobox that are unsourced in the body paragraphs, and they require a source per WP:INFOBOXCITE. There is no mention of "Mayer Goldberg", "August 21, 1891", and "Aviation Section, U.S. Signal Corps".
 * (2) Source #37 is formatted incorrectly.
 * (3) Several sources are flagged as incomplete since they are missing a URL. You can easily fix this by adding the URL (ideally) or removing the access date option (not ideal, but acceptable).
 * Please let me know when these issues are taken care of so I can promote this nomination. MX ( ✉  •  ✎  ) 01:54, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Hey User:MX, thank you for your review. I believe I have fixed the issues at hand. I didn't add any refs to the infobox, but I did either mention the contentious facts in the main body or removed them entirely. I also put a title on the source in question, which is an advertisment. Also, the sources with the missing URLs were all offline so I had to remove the access dates. Let me know if you have any more concerns! --John M Wolfson (talk) 02:09, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the swift response. I am satisfied with the work done so far and I approve this nomination. I'm not able to access the source without login credentials, so I will accept this in good faith. Nice job with the article! MX ( ✉  •  ✎  ) 20:22, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Crap, I noticed there's a paragraph unsourced. Sorry for approving it a few minutes ago. Will restore tick once this is done. MX ( ✉  •  ✎  ) 20:29, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Upon further inspection the paragraph in question seemed rather SYTH-y in my eye so I decided to remove it altogether. Hope that helps! --John M Wolfson (talk) 22:38, 27 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Symbol voting keep.svg Thank you. Article is good to go! Cheers, MX ( ✉  •  ✎  ) 23:35, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks! John M Wolfson (talk) 23:37, 27 October 2018 (UTC)