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Edmund Walsingham

 * ... that it was to Sir Edmund Walsingham that Sir Thomas More made his final ironic jest while ascending the scaffold?
 * Reviewed: Pieter Goos

Created/expanded by NinaGreen (talk). Self nominated at 20:45, 16 June 2013 (UTC).


 * Symbol question.svg Excellent expansion! 5x, long, within policy, QPQ good (though please link directly to the QPQ DYK template in the future). I have an issue with the sourcing, though. I can access the second two of three sources, and they don't cite the quote—why are they included? (The Thomas More article also doesn't say that the quote was directed at anyone in specific, for what it's worth.) What does the first text say that makes it certain that the quip was directed at Walsingham, and could you include it in the ref's quote param?  czar   &middot;   &middot;  05:58, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the review! I've moved two of the sources to the previous sentence (they were citations for the names of his famous prisoners), and added an online source for the hook. The original source stating that the jest was directed to Walsingham is the life of More written by his son-in-law, William Roper. The online source I've added has the jest at p. 434, directed to the Lieutenant, and on p. 365 of the same source the Lieutenant is identified as Walsingham. NinaGreen (talk) 15:11, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Symbol voting keep.svg I'm prepared to accept this for the Google Books sourced at pgs. 434 (quote) and 425 (Walsingham as the lieutenant), and AGF on the Oxford subscription text. (I see you said 365, which works too.) Excellent work. P.S. Any reason why you didn't cite the Roper text? czar   &middot;   &middot;  22:47, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the tick! The ODNB and other secondary references all cite Roper as their source, but so far I haven't been able to find the original Roper text online; if I do find it, I'll add it to the citations. NinaGreen (talk) 23:08, 17 June 2013 (UTC)