Template:Did you know nominations/Edward Fitzgerald (barrister)

Edward Fitzgerald (barrister)
Created by Ratio Scripta (talk). Self nom at 03:04, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * ... that Edward Fitzgerald clients have included public hate-figures such as Myra Hindley, Mary Bell, Maxine Carr, Jon Venables, various IRA prisoners and Abu Hamza?


 * Comment bit waffley. Surely instead of and on of James Bulger's killers. Just write Maxine Carr, Jon Venables, IRA prisonars and Abu Hamza. As you haven't said whay Carr, Hindley or Bell are significant, I think it's a bit OTT to start stating why individuals are significant. Globalwheels (talk) 11:50, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Addressed issues raised by Globalwheels, made DYK more clear, concise and coherent.-- Ratio: Scripta  · [ Talk ] 12:29, 22 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment Good Stuff I'll wait a few days see if anyone has any objections as it seems a bit slow on here :P Globalwheels (talk) 15:03, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment I changed the "IRA" link in the hook to point to Provisional Irish Republican Army. The article titled Irish Republican Army is about the group that fought in the Easter Rising of 1916 and the Irish War of Independence of 1919–21, which split shortly after independence. For the last few decades, the term "IRA", unless otherwise qualified, has referred to the Provisional IRA. Fitzgerald was called to the Bar in 1978. — Dale Arnett (talk) 04:40, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose The article is a predominanly written and nominated by a single issue author.  The article is immature with few edits by anyone else, and there is a high possibility it is written by the the subject or someone close to the subject. The notability of the barrister is probable, but not substantially evident in the article.  Also, the subject is of little relevance to those outside the UK. Clovis Sangrail (talk) 02:16, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Disagree with oppose Firstly - I have absolutely no affiliation with the subject matter, just an interest relating to legal matters. Secondly, if you feel the article is immature please check back in a few day I will be adding a section for notable cases, also there are numerous DYKs with a much shorter word count. The subject is of relevance outside of the UK due to the subjects matter work on death row cases and work in the Caribbean. Granted, the article could do with lengthening, however it should be noted it does meet the length requirements for DYK. Finally, going back to notability outside the UK, a DYK that appears on today's date, 8/26/2011, for the article Rex Putnam bares little relevance for anyone outside the State of Oregon. Or even the DYk for the article Rigby's Buildings has a very specific geographical niche.  Kind regards, -- Ratio: Scripta   · [ Talk ] 08:54, 26 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment I have added a fair bit of substantive information to the article since the oppose comment by (User:Clovis Sangrail), I believe it should establish world notability one of the users contentions to the nomination. I am still working on the notable cases section, but it will take time. Nevertheless, article does meet requirements for DYK nomination -- Ratio: Scripta  · [ Talk ] 21:18, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Agree Lot more "colour" to the article. An award winning barrister, with some highly notable UK clients. But as Ratio says it's upto Clovis to decide. However I do think the user is rather harsh opposing because it only has one author writing it. How is few edits by anyone else a sign of immaturity. Mean you could right a fantastic article with no one else editing it, would you call it immature? Don't think so. Person close the the subject would only be an issue if they were bias, I can't see any bias in the article. Also subject of little reference to those outside of UK. How immature is that comment. Firstly there are tonnes of articles about roads and places and sports which have no relavence to anyone outside of the field/country. I think we shall discount that comment imo. Globalwheels (talk) 17:04, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Based on the number and emotional content of the comments here, I feel like I'm stepping into a minefield. That being said...
 * Hook: Interesting enough, short enough, cited.
 * Article: Please give this one a copy edit. Parsing the lead alone is enough to make ones head hurt. Also, clean up the reference style, as the Publisher is generally not a web address; the currently-used items in Work would probably be best moved to Publisher. Article is long enough and new enough. No images, so no need to check for image copyvio. Paraphrasing seems okay.
 * Summary:Symbol question.svg Please clean up references and do a copyedit, or ask somebody at the Guild of Copyeditors to help you. Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:13, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * As requested the article has been reffered to the the Guild of Copyeditorsrequest can be seen at WikiProject_Guild_of_Copy_Editors/Requests-- Ratio: Scripta  · [ Talk ] 12:31, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I have cleaned up the references as requested.-- Ratio: Scripta  · [ Talk ] 17:59, 28 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Symbol confirmed.svg Good to go after thorough copyedit by Casliber. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:16, 29 August 2011 (UTC)