Template:Did you know nominations/Escape of Viktor Pestek and Siegfried Lederer from Auschwitz


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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:34, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Escape of Viktor Pestek and Siegfried Lederer from Auschwitz

 * ... that Viktor Pestek, who helped Siegfried Lederer escape, was the only Auschwitz guard to risk his life to help a prisoner? Source: Langbein, Hermann (2005). People in Auschwitz, p. 448
 * ALT1:... that Siegfried Lederer, a Jewish prisoner at Auschwitz, escaped disguised as an SS guard with the help of SS-Rottenführer Viktor Pestek? Source: Levine, Alan J. (2000). Captivity, Flight, and Survival in World War II. pp. 215-216
 * ALT2:... that Leo Baeck refused to disseminate the reports of Siegfried Lederer, who had escaped from Auschwitz, because he felt that it was more humane that the Jews not know they were headed for the gas chambers? Source: Linn, Ruth (2004). Escaping Auschwitz: A Culture of Forgetting p. 16; Housden, Martyn (2013). Resistance and Conformity in the Third Reich, p. 129
 * ALT3:... that, after escaping from Auschwitz, Siegfried Lederer broke into Theresienstadt concentration camp several times to organize armed resistance? Source: Terezín. Council of Jewish Communities in the Czech Lands. 1965. p. 193
 * Reviewed: Ian Aird

Created by Catrìona (talk). Self-nominated at 15:04, 11 August 2018 (UTC).


 * Symbol voting keep.svg Firstly, which hook? I have to AGF for all the sources, so that's not an influencing factor. Apart from the sourcing, important though it is, all of them meet the technical requirements (except ALT2 which is strictly four charcaters over-length; but a) "in a 100 years, who's gonna care", and b) it can in any case have its wording tweaked to lose the excess (e.g., the first "the", perhaps). Considering the nature of the subject they are all neutrally worded, indeed rather delicately, and are certainly all extremely interesting to not ust a broad-based readership, etc., but probably everyone of whatever political persuasion.The article itself is new enough (five days old) and easily long enough. It's sufficiently and well-sourced (although—my days!—inline page numbering!), with no apprarant copyvios or close-paraphrasing (not even the mandatory proper nouns and titles, curiously). The image question is so far inapplicable, as none is being used; to whit, I would ask why not? Surely this is a tempting opportunity to use File:Siegfried Lederer.png, and get the chap whom the hook is about on the front page. No pressure; but go for it. In the expectation / hope that User:Catrìona does use this image, then, for the record, it is "free...used in the article [and] show up well at small size".Back to the hook choice; personaly I'd go for Alt1—I think the whole "escaping in disguise" trope is too good to miss (whithought trivialising the subject of course, pace). ALT3 would be my second choice, as, again in terms of public interest, the idea of escaping and then breaking back in is sufficiently unorthodox.Incidentally, my WP:QPQ for Template:Did you know nominations/Murder of Deborah Linsley. Cheers, —SerialNumber54129  paranoia / cheap sh*t room 15:39, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the review. I don't have strong preferences between the hooks and am inclined to let the promoter decide. File:Siegfried Lederer.png is fair use, so it can't be used unfortunately. Catrìona (talk) 16:32, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Righto,, go with ALT1 eh. Yes, I see what you mean about the image—shame—I was distracted by the fact that previous non-free versions were to be deleted. Here we go. Cool article —SerialNumber54129 paranoia / cheap sh*t room 16:37, 15 August 2018 (UTC)