Template:Did you know nominations/Fannie Lou Hamer


 * The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as |this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 23:13, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Fannie Lou Hamer

 * ... that civil rights leader Fannie Lou Hamer (pictured) was brutally beaten at the orders of police in South Carolina, US for standing up against racial segregation? Source: The Nation
 * ALT1:... that civil rights leader Fannie Lou Hamer (pictured) co-founded the Freedom Democratic Party, to attempt to challenge the all-white Democratic establishment at the 1964 Democratic National Convention? Source: Women's History Encyclopedia (stricken by reviewer because nominator has selected the original hook)
 * ALT2:... that U.S. President Johnson held an impromptu press conference to drown out the news coverage of Fannie Lou Hamer (pictured) speech for civil rights at the 1964 Democratic National Convention? Women's History Encyclopedia (stricken by reviewer because nominator has selected the original hook)
 * Reviewed: N/A
 * Comment: It would be fantastic if we could get this placed into the queue ahead a bit, as it is Black History Month and she is one incredible black woman. &mdash; Coffee //  have a ☕️ //  beans  // 04:10, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

Improved to Good Article status by Coffee (talk), A21sauce (talk), and Fishlandia (talk). Nominated by Coffee (talk) at 04:10, 14 February 2018 (UTC).


 * COMMENT: I would love to see this one used before the end of the month, but do not know enough about Mississippi civil rights history to review the article as part of the DYK process. I will suggest rewording ALT1 to ALT1a and an ALT3. I defer to Coffee to accept these suggestions or not. David notMD (talk) 11:02, 15 February 2018 (UTC)


 * ALT1a:... that Fannie Lou Hamer co-founded the Freedom Democratic Party to challenge the all-white Democratic slate of representatives sent to the 1964 Democratic National Convention by the State of Mississippi? Source: Women's History Encyclopedia
 * ALT3:... that the tombstone of combative civil rights leader Fannie Lou Hamer displays one of her quotes: "I am sick and tired of being sick and tired"? Source: needed
 * I oppose alt3 as I doubt Ms. Hamer would have wanted to be remembered for the words on her tombstone. I'm neutral to the other suggestions. &mdash; Coffee //  have a ☕️ //  beans  // 11:26, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Symbol possible vote.svg, I am sorry for pinging you, but I invite you to have your input in this thread: . Currently the DYK rule states that 1. e. Articles that have featured (bold link) previously on DYK, or in a blurb on the main page's In the news, or On this day sections are ineligible (WP:DYKRULES). According to this rule, this DYK nomination is ineligible . Personally, I think this current rule make very little sense with Good Article nominations. I'd like to see this article on the Main Page. Regards, Alex Shih (talk) 17:29, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * My understanding was if it had been listed in ITN, DYK, or OTD as a blurb before, which this hasn't. Her article is only featured in OTD as a death, so I'm not sure that 1.e. applies here. I hope we can please get a approval on this nomination. What about our old use of WP:IAR here? It seems like this should definitely be on the DYK's main page section to me. &mdash; Coffee //  have a ☕️ //  beans  // 03:59, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Per 1.e: (Articles linked at ITN or OTD not in bold, including the recent deaths section, are still eligible.) ... her article is only listed as a death... so this should still be eligible correct? &mdash; Coffee //  have a ☕️ //  beans  // 04:05, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I would like to weigh in on this discussion. The article did appear on OTD but the question should be if it appeared as a bolded item. See []. On March 14, 2017, Admiral John Byng is bolded and would not be DYK compliant. Battle of Minorca, in the same entry, is not bolded and would be a DYK compliant, assuming it met other requirements. Fannie Lou Hamer and Tony Benn have been bolded but perhaps improperly bolded. They do not have any hook or similar, merely a name in a list of 3 people who died. Since this is not completely clear, we must determine whether the DYK rules are inclusive or exclusive. Namely, is it "everything which is not forbidden is allowed" (English law) or "everything which is not allowed is forbidden". (certainly, it is not "everything which is not forbidden is compulsory" which is dictatorship). Under the English law principle, OTD listing only as a death would be permitted as a DYK. CONCLUSION: DYK nomination should proceed. Vanguard10 (talk) 05:05, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Is there a reviewer? If not, I can proceed. Alex, are you reviewing this? Vanguard10 (talk) 05:05, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * , fantastic analogy. My concern was that Fannie Lou Hamer appeared as a bolded item, which falls into the grey area, but your rationale is very convincing. Please proceed with reviewing if possible, thank you! Alex Shih (talk) 05:35, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Review in progress. May not appear for 20 hours.Vanguard10 (talk) 06:16, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I fixed the only close paraphrasing issue I could find (the rest are caused by quotes, which I reduced originally for it to pass GA), I think it should be good to go now. Please let me know if there are any other issues! &mdash; Coffee  //  have a ☕️ //  beans  // 19:34, 16 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you! I recommend going with the first hook aka "ALT0". &mdash; Coffee //  have a ☕️ //  beans  // 04:11, 17 February 2018 (UTC)