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Fatinitza

 * ... that Franz von Suppé's opera Fatinitza casts a female singer as a male army lieutenant whose cross-dressing as a female is so convincing that an elderly General falls in love with him?
 * Comment: Hope this is alright. Could drop a clause or two for brevity, but it's under the length. I'm not overly concerned if the image isn't used.
 * Comment: Hope this is alright. Could drop a clause or two for brevity, but it's under the length. I'm not overly concerned if the image isn't used.

Created by Adam Cuerden (talk). Self nominated at 03:14, 22 July 2013 (UTC).


 * Symbol question.svg interesting article on good sources. Excellent free picture, but where should (pictured) go? I think the coloured one might be more attractive, - you don't see much in stamp size whichever you use. I find the sourced hook too wordy, and the genders too tricky (starting on female, "ending" on "him". Try it simpler, please, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:20, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

How about: Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:10, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Alt 1: ... that Franz von Suppé's operetta Fatinitza (poster pictured) stars a Russian army lieutenant who, while dressed as a woman, wins the love of a hot-tempered elderly general?


 * Much better! I would drop "accidentally". Now we formally need a repetition of the source right after the statement. We have room to say what is pictured. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:38, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * But it already is sourced. There's a discussion of Wladimir in the lead as a trousers role, and the plot description - all of the plot description - is sourced to the libretto, as indicated at the end of the section. I don't think it's necessary to source the libretto ten times in a row for the summary of the plot, surely? Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:18, 23 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, I (almost) never have a ref in the lead, so didn't look there. Now I looked: the love-winning fact is not mentioned. (Is it "win", or is there a word to describe that it happens without intention?) Please, to comply with teh rulez, as said above: place the duplicate of the ref at the very sentence. You can take it away when DYK is over ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:04, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay. Ref is now copied to the first paragraph of the plot summary. Adam Cuerden (talk) 18:02, 23 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Symbol voting keep.svg ALT1, offline sources accepted AGF. I bet an infobox with a poster would be more attractive than M. Suppé, what do you think? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:52, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree about the infobox, but let's discuss that at Talk:Fatinitza? Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:07, 23 July 2013 (UTC)