Template:Did you know nominations/First Catilinarian conspiracy


 * Well I would have to ask for that answer. Onegreatjoke (talk) 16:56, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
 * It is the consensus of modern scholars that the First Catilinarian conspiracy did not happen: Seager 1964, p. 338 n. 1. "It is now widely held that the conspiracy is wholly fictitious"; Berry, DH (2020). Cicero's Catilinarians. New York. p. 17. ISBN 978-0-19-751081-0. OCLC 1126348418. "The 'first Catilinarian conspiracy' was accepted at face value by ancient and modern historians alike until the myth was exploded by Robin Seager and Ronald Syme (independently) in 1964".
 * Also, to be entirely clear about the scholarship and what I mean with "consensus", I don't mean "literally everyone". There was a paper published rather recently in 2021 which argued it did happen. This is not the consensus. That paper even says so: First Catilinarian Conspiracy of 66-65 BC, described by Sallust at BC 18-19, is not ‘fiction’ (as is almost universally assumed) (my emphasis). Ifly6 (talk) 18:37, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Perhaps change to "did not happen" rather than "fake"? Ifly6 (talk) 18:50, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Symbol voting keep.svg I think that's my concerns resolved! feel free to mess around with the semantics of the wording on that one. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 02:14, 18 January 2023 (UTC)