Template:Did you know nominations/Frans Goedhart


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The result was: promoted by Miyagawa (talk) 17:28, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Frans Goedhart

 * ... that Dutch journalist Frans Goedhart (pictured) illegally founded a newsletter during World War II, was sentenced to death, escaped, and served in the House of Representatives for 25 years?


 * Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/German Sterligov

Converted from a redirect by Crispulop (talk). Self-nominated at 13:45, 22 July 2015 (UTC).


 * Symbol question.svg Article is long enough and has been created on the indicated day. The various hook facts all occur in the article and are referenced there. Image is licensed under the 'Netherlands' version of CC-BY-SA 3.0; I couldn't find what's different from the 'normal' version of that license and thus have to assume it is okay. The article is neutral and well-referenced. I have two small requests for clarification: --Pgallert (talk) 13:15, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Hook wording: Is it possible to found an illegal newspaper? That doesn't sound very logical to me, as it would have to be forbidden before its first issue appears. Maybe ran / edited would be better, unless of course founding a newspaper without prior approval was illegal in itself, then maybe 'illegally founded...'?
 * Internal consistency: The Het Parool article states a different date of founding, and a co-founder. Can this be reconciled?
 * Concerning your first comment, good point. So far I only read that the newspaper was illegal, I did not know why. According to this (http://www.tweedewereldoorlog.nl/themas/verzet/illegale-pers/) Dutch WWII website newspapers and such were only allowed to print news that was approved by the Germans. Reading between the lines that means that anything else was illegal. I changed the hook to illegally founded a newsletter (as it is sure he did that on his own). Concerning your second comment: I fixed the date of first publication, it is now consistent with the Goedhart article. The year of publication mentioned in the Het Parool article is probably based on the newsletter. There certainly was no-cofounder for the newsletter, just Goedhart. I think that for Het Parool there was a group of founders, but the hook-change has circumvented this issue. Crispulop (talk) 13:35, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg Good to go then. I also checked for plagiarism and found none. --Pgallert (talk) 13:04, 28 July 2015 (UTC)