Template:Did you know nominations/George Ali Murad Khan

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:19, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

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George Ali Murad Khan

 * ... that universal suffrage was introduced in the Indian subcontinent for the first time in 1949 in the Khairpur state of Pakistan under the reign of Mir George Ali Murad Khan (pictured)?
 * Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Oriana Wilson

Created by Royroydeb (talk). Self-nominated at 14:41, 19 April 2019 (UTC).


 * Nice decent article but we need a better source for the claim. Will indulge in some copy-editing. &#x222F; WBG converse 12:10, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Expanded the article by 2X. Struck out hook; for being inaccurate. Once again, I cannot over-emphasize the need to abide by WP:HISTRS.To quote a reliable source:-In contrast, by 1951 India – all princely states included – was participating in the first nationwide general elections on the principles of ‘one person, one vote’ and representative government, while in Pakistan only Khairpur and Bahawalpur even achieved universal adult franchise, and no state realised full responsible government. The issue of pin-pointing the state that first achieved universal-suffrage -- Bahawalpur (wherein a very similar law was passed days before Khairpur's) or Khairpur or the entire country of India (which has decided on suffrage, long back and preparations of voters list et al were in swing for years) is not easy. &#x222F; WBG converse 15:03, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * The claim in the hook was cited from The Friday Times, a Pakistani newspaper. Also in this revision, you have added a fact and added citation needed to it! RRD (talk) 12:44, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
 * A Pakistani source has all the reasons to claim exaggerated stuff. Similar for Indian sources; if this was an India-based article. My source was a peer-reviewed scholarly publication and I see at-least one leading expert in the area, as a co-author.
 * As to cn template; I need to get the precise bibliographic data of the source, once I go for my next visit to National Library of India :-( The soft-copy that I can access through my subscriptions has a lack of it. &#x222F; WBG converse 13:32, 29 April 2019 (UTC)


 * A new hook is needed as the original has been struck, thanks. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:17, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I also have to note that the article currently has a citation needed tag. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:47, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I have removed the unsourced statement.


 * ALT1:... that George Ali Murad Khan, the erstwhile ruler of Khairpur state of Pakistan initially wanted to join India? RRD (talk) 02:52, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * ALT1 is probably a better option, but I will leave the rest to the original reviewer . Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:05, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I have removed my addition, sourcing ain't strong. The hook is thus, . &#x222F; WBG converse 09:53, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed; at this point, Winged Blades of Godric has contributed too much to the article to be eligible to review here. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:40, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Looking at this again, I think ALT1 could be rephased into something like:
 * ALT1a ... that George Ali Murad Khan, who was the ruler of the princely state of Khairpur in Pakistan, initially wanted his state to join India?
 * The main issue that it now appears that the information is no longer in the article, which would make ALT1/ALT1a unsuitable. If that is the case, I'm proposing an alternative below:
 * ALT2 ... that George Ali Murad Khan, who was the ruler of the princely state of Khairpur in Pakistan, survived accidentally being shot by his father when he was nine months old?
 * Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:59, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Are either of you fine with ALT2? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 21:49, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes. RRD (talk) 10:29, 25 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Striking ALT1 and ALT1a as the hook fact is no longer in the article. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 07:27, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg WBG has been unable to respond thus far though the nominator is fine with ALT2; new reviewer needed to check the hook's suitability. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 22:56, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
 * ALT2 is fine from me. Well done! Apologies for delay:-( &#x222F; WBG converse 11:21, 8 July 2019 (UTC)


 * : REVIEW COMPLETED - The following review was completed by Thats Just Great 
 * Green check.svg QPQ for Template:Did you know nominations/Oriana Wilson
 * Green check.svg Article moved from User:Royroydeb/George Murad on April 12, 2019 and has 3631 characters (593 words) "readable prose size"
 * Green check.svg NPOV
 * Green check.svg ALT2 Hook is interesting, short enough and sourced with Ref 1
 * Green check.svg Hook is sourced to :He survived an accidental shooting by his father, in which a bullet penetrated his stomach and right lung, and exited through the back of his right shoulder, when he was just nine months old.
 * Green check.svg Every paragraph sourced
 * Green check.svg Earwig @ Toolserver Copyvio Detector found no copyvio
 * Symbol confirmed.svg GTG -- Thats Just Great (talk) 17:12, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

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