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Henri Julien (Motor Sports)

 * ... that Henri Julien founded and managed the smallest Formula 1 team of the 1980s with only six employees including the driver, while the more established teams had more than 100 employees at that time?

Created/expanded by NearEMPTiness (talk), Matthias v.d. Elbe (talk). Nominated by NearEMPTiness (talk) at 13:29, 21 July 2013 (UTC).


 * Symbol question.svg Article new enough, long enough etc. etc. Hook referenced with offline reference. Only problem I can see is the length of the hook: it is over the 200 characters allowed. Can i suggest:
 * Alt 1 ... that Henri Julien founded and managed the smallest Formula 1 team of the 1980s with only six employees including the driver; more established teams had more than 100 employees?
 * or just simply: Alt 2 that Henri Julien founded and managed the smallest Formula 1 team of the 1980s?

--Rushton2010 (talk) 01:27, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
 * How about mentioning the six employees but without the extraneous detail:
 * ALT3: ... that Henri Julien founded and managed the smallest Formula 1 team of the 1980s, with only six employees including the driver?
 * I have some issues with the article, though:
 * Several unreferenced paragraphs
 * The "Se battre oui..." quote – it's not clear who said this, or what relevance it has
 * One reference reads: "Hodges: Rennwagen von A-Z nach 1945, S. 8 (German)." This isn't enough information for the reader to locate the source (I certainly can't make any sense of it)
 * The last two points won't necessarily disqualify the article from DYK, but they still ought to be fixed. DoctorKubla (talk) 19:44, 7 August 2013 (UTC)


 * I like ALT3. I have fixed the "Se battre oui..." quote and the "Hodges" reference in the article. The German article is today on the de:wp:sg? title page.--NearEMPTiness (talk) 10:19, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, you just need a few more inline citations. The DYK rule of thumb is one per paragraph. DoctorKubla (talk) 19:41, 10 August 2013 (UTC)


 * I personally think the number of inline citations are sufficient, but to comply with the DYK rules, I asked the author of the German original, to make references to these at the end of each paragraph. --NearEMPTiness (talk) 17:47, 18 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Hold on, have you actually read the source that supports the hook fact (La Grande Encyclopédie de la Formule 1)? DoctorKubla (talk) 22:06, 18 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Symbol delete vote.svg It has been almost a month, and the inline paragraph cites have not appeared, the important question by DoctorKubla has not been answered (we can't give an AGF tick on a hook fact if the author has not actually read the hook source), and the article has acquired a copyedit tag that has been unaddressed for over four weeks. Closing the nomination as unsuccessful. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:01, 17 September 2013 (UTC)