Template:Did you know nominations/History of retirement


 * The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as |this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by Yoninah (talk) 14:57, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Rejected per WP:DYKSG

History of retirement

 * ... that the Canadian physician William Osler said in 1905 that a man's best work was done before age forty, and that by age sixty, he should retire? Source: The William Osler Papers
 * ALT1:... that the New England puritan minister, Cotton Mather proposed that elderly people should "[b]e pleased with the retirement which you are dismissed into"? Source: The History of Retirement, From Early Man to A.A.R.P.

Created by Rabbabodrool (talk). Self-nominated at 22:25, 26 February 2017 (UTC).


 * Symbol delete vote.svg Currently proposed for deletion along WP:NOTESSAY grounds, and I have to agree. In its current state, the page represents a highly selective series of facts about retirement presented with commentary and in a non-encyclopedic tone. Per supplementary rule D7, "Articles that fail to deal adequately with the topic are also likely to be rejected." In this case, this is definitely not comprehensive on the history of retirement. It's far enough off the mark that I don't believe there's substantial hope that the article will be improved to an acceptable level within the next 7 days. I'd recommend moving this back to userspace, fixing errors, and continuing to add to it until this is at a higher level of quality. ~ Rob 13 Talk 19:25, 28 February 2017 (UTC)


 * The article has been since improved. Rabbabodrool (talk) 04:18, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
 * There are still substantial WP:NOTESSAY issues and cherry-picking of facts in this article. ~ Rob 13 Talk 06:38, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Symbol possible vote.svg New and long enough, QPQ not required as this is nominator's first submission. Earwig detects some borderline close paraphrasing where individual sentences are very similar to their sources; I'd like to see these reworded.
 * I agree with User:BU Rob13 that the article does not adequately cover the topic. The problem is that the article is a collection of very specific anecdotes and quotes from famous people at various times in history, rather than a general discussion on how ideas and practice of retirement changed over time.  Look at History of public relations for contrast; that is a Good Article, so you don't have to be quite that thorough, but it should give you a general idea of what the content and structure should be.  I think this article can be fixed by including more general information about the context of the quotes rather than focusing just on who said what.  John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 19:26, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Symbol delete vote.svg It has been over three weeks since the most recent post with no edits to address the issues noted, including the close paraphrasing. Marking for closure. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:26, 2 April 2017 (UTC)