Template:Did you know nominations/Hongcheon County

Hongcheon County

 * ... that the Korean Federation for Environmental Movement (KFEM) opened an educational facility in Hongcheon in 1995?

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 12:03, 14 June 2013 (UTC).
 * ALT1 Hook ... that azalea (pictured) is the national flower of Hongcheon County and also of Korea?

Reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Diadema paucispinum.
 * Symbol possible vote.svg The original hook is cited, but I don't find it particularly interesting. For the ALT, the same source has been cited, but I could not find in it a reference to either the azalea (mentioned in the hook) or the magpie (mentioned in the article). The same goes for the citation on demography. The sourcing needs to be reworked. Ashwin147 (talk) 05:39, 16 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Ashwin, it is my mistake. Ref 5 should have been cited at both places. The name of the flower is in the Korean language. I have fixed the references.-- Nvvchar . 14:14, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * There seems to be a problem with the citation from "Asia's Environmental Movements"; its been cited in 4 different contexts with respect to Hongcheon county and yet Hongcheon itself finds a mention in the book only once and that is with respect to KFEM. So this citation needs to be checked throughout the article. Ashwin147 (talk) 18:33, 17 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Missing the obvious. Thanks. I have re-fixed the references.-- Nvvchar . 22:04, 17 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Are Chal Oksusu Festival and Hongcheon Glutinous Corn Festival the same? This needs clarification. From the citation they appear to be the same, but the article mentions them separately. Also, the last subheading on notable people is entirely unreferenced. Ashwin147 (talk) 04:56, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * ^ Made changes in the article to meet your concern. -- Nvvchar . 04:47, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg All set to go! Ashwin147 (talk) 10:39, 19 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Symbol possible vote.svg There are two claims in the ALT1 hook: that azalea is the national flower of Hongcheon County and also of Korea. The cited website supports neither of these: it lists a county flower (not national) in Korean only (presumably the azalea, but under the circumstances I think a bit more is needed), and does not give any indication that this is the flower of Korea. (And is it South Korea, North Korea, or both?) Finally, I have to ask what makes everydaykorea.com—it appears to be a commercial site—a reliable source? I looked at their "About" page, and there's no information there at all. The site's Terms and Conditions page does not give me confidence that accuracy or reliability is a top priority here. Note: I've struck the original hook as being completely uninteresting. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:21, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Follow-up: the http://wiki.galbijim.com/Hongcheon page (accessible by searching at everydaykorea.com) clearly meets the definition of an openwiki, and is thus not a reliable source per WP:USERG: looking at the history, this is information added by one user on July 18, 2006, with no citations. As the source is unacceptable for Wikipedia, you'll need to find another source (that meets WP:RS requirements) for the azalea info and also for the other four places where the source is cited in the article. You can also propose additional ALT hooks that rely on other sourcing. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:34, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I've c/e the article, deleted the wiki.galbijim.com ref, and deleted content attributed to the ref. It needs a new hook. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:56, 23 June 2013 (UTC)


 * ALT2 is proposed with a picture.-- Nvvchar . 00:42, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
 * ALT2: ... that the emblem of Hongcheon County, consisting of a leaf and dew, represents the "County of Culture and Tourism" and "patriotism and the love of one's home"?
 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Nomination needs a full review. Since the picture for ALT2 was removed from here by another user as it was non-free (and thus against DYK rules), I've removed "pictured" from the hook. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:16, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg Size and expansion ok. I am not a fan of the hook. A couple of refs I checked verified material. Hang on.....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:20, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I would tweak to ALT3 ... that the emblem of Hongcheon County, consisting of a leaf and dew, symbolises its clean environment?
 * Symbol confirmed.svg I'll pass this as only a minor hook change. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:41, 22 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg  Now needs a review of ALT3, since the "symbolizes" material is new. Sorry, Cas Liber, but you can't add material to an article, put it in a hook, and promote it all in one go: see WP:DYKSG. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:46, 22 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Symbol confirmed.svg ALT3 hook approved; it is in the article and supported by the given inline source. Striking ALT2. Rest of approval per Cas Liber above. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:52, 24 July 2013 (UTC)