Template:Did you know nominations/Humble and Kind


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The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 18:44, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Humble and Kind

 * ... that after seeing a trailer for Oprah Winfrey's (pictured) Belief series, Tim McGraw got Winfrey to provide footage for his "Humble and Kind" music video?


 * Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Japanese submarine I-157 3rd of 4 QPQs

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 16:34, 22 January 2016 (UTC).


 * Question: why not use an image of Tim McGraw (singer) or Lori McKenna (songwriter)? Oprah's contribution to this song is insignificant. -Zanhe (talk) 18:02, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The objective of DYK is to draw attention (in terms of pageviews) to new articles. Of the three names, I felt that Oprah is by far the most likely name to draw attention to the song. I have no problem with adding a picture of McGraw, but I was hoping to add a picture from the recent years to this song.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:08, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure it's a great idea to use a sort-of related picture in order to get more views. It seems sort of click-baity (although I know you have the best of intentions!) Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (Message me) 22:33, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Half the hooks on DYK are "click-baity".--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:25, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree! I just don't think they should be this tangentially linked. [[Media:Tim McGraw.jpg]] is pretty good as a replacement, I think... Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (Message me) 00:01, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Are you aware that you are putting forth a 2003 picture of McGraw? I saw that picture and did not feel it was an appropriate inclusion for a 2016 single.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:51, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Also, google Oprah Humble and Kind and see how many times Oprah is not only mentioned in the article but in the title to the article. Compare this to McKenna. The press about the song is quite a bit about Oprah. Even 2 of the first 5 refs in the article have Oprah in the title. The article also has three sentences about Oprah and a lot about the video that she provided. Oprah is the video, basically.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:09, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't agree, but will let someone else decide! Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (Message me) 01:13, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * , Which of the above are you disagreeing with. No other McGraw single from this decade uses the 2003 picture. Are you saying you disagree on the point that it is too dated for use here? The vast majority of secondary sources about the song discuss Oprah's involvment in the video. Are you disagreeing with the significance of her involvment?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:41, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I disagree with the use of the picture, I guess? Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (Message me) 21:06, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * , only a fraction of hooks have their picture selected, but I do think this is one of the better pictures for drawing viewers to the page. Your answer seems to say that you don't disagree with either point that the McGraw image is too dated as an alternate or that Oprah was involved in an important way. Feel free to disagree without cause then.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:56, 5 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed of article and hook; the image, while important, will not matter unless the rest can be approved. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:59, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg article is big enough and expanded in timeframe. Written fairly neutrally. QPQ done. Copyvio clear. Hook cited and faithful to source. Oprah supplied a major chunk of material used in video is is much more widely recognised than McGraw. HAppy to use her image. Good to go. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:33, 22 February 2016 (UTC)