Template:Did you know nominations/Humphrey Stafford (died 1442)


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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 22:02, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Humphrey Stafford (died 1442)

 * ... that in the late fourteenth century, Humphrey Stafford—possibly because of what one historian has termed "a bellicose engagement"—used a prosthetic hand made of silver?


 * Comment: Created in my draft space 29 September 2016, moved to main space 3 September 2016.
 * Comment: Created in my draft space 29 September 2016, moved to main space 3 September 2016.

Created by Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi (talk). Self-nominated at 10:34, 6 September 2016 (UTC).

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 * ✅ Muffled   Pocketed  12:57, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm concerned that when he source says he's "of the silver hand", that may be poetical e.g. a silver-colored steel gauntlet or something.  E Eng  13:43, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I read it as the primary source telling us that he was 'of the silver hand’- but the secondary source that it was 'apparently because of his use of an artificial limb after losing one of his own in a bellicose engagement.' Muffled   Pocketed  07:56, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
 * But the 2ndary source's use of quotes indicates distancing. It's just not clear the prosthesis was actually made of silver (cf. silver-colored). Is there any other source we can look to?  E Eng  08:31, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
 * The quotes indicate a quote, surely. Muffled   Pocketed  13:19, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
 * When a source uses quotes where it would be more natural to simply state the information directly, it implies that he/she isn't sure what to make of the quoted material. And stop calling me Shirley.  E Eng  14:46, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

In any case, I've expanded the article a bit on the silveryness or otherwise of the limb. Muffled  Pocketed  19:43, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I hope you won't think I'm being difficult, but I'm still not seeing anything clearly telling us that the hand thingamajig was actually silver. Auric Goldfinger didn't have a gold finger, after all -- at least, I don't think so. Try this:


 * ALT1 ... that Humphrey Stafford was called "Stafford of the silver hand" because of a prosthesis he wore, perhaps losing his limb in a "bellicose engagement"?
 *  E Eng  20:04, 8 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:15, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg This article is new enough and long enough. One source states that the hand was made out of silver, while the other does not, and it is probably safer to go with ALT1. The article is neutral and I detected no close paraphrasing. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:55, 8 October 2016 (UTC)