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Intelsat 23, Launch of Telkom-3 and Ekspress-MD2

 * ... that Intelsat 23 was the first launch of a Proton-M rocket since the failure of Telkom-3 and Ekspress-MD2?
 * Reviewed: Conroy Virtus General Union of Negro African Workers
 * Comment: Boring? Launched today.

Created/expanded by Secretlondon (talk). Self nom at 21:41, 14 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Symbol confirmed.svg Both look good to me. Length, date and hook are fine. Sourcing is fine as well. This one's good to go. Prioryman (talk) 12:10, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg The hook needs rewording, but I'm not sure how best to do it. Intelsat 23 was not the first launch of a rocket, the placing of said satellite in orbit involved the first launch of that rocket type since the earlier failure. I'm sure there's a nicely concise way of putting it, but I can't think of one offhand, not knowing all the nomenclature. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:19, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * ALT1: ... that the launch of Intelsat 23 was the first of a Proton-M rocket since the failure of Telkom-3 and Ekspress-MD2?
 * Arrgh someone has just split the launch article into two small satellite articles claiming that LAUNCHES are non-notable. Both articles are >1500 characters but there is some duplication. Secretlondon (talk) 18:08, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Let me know when you've got this under control; the duplication could be problematic if there's enough of it. The hook links in ALT1, at least, need to be revised to reflect the new article names, but no additional QPQ is required under the circumstances. Thanks, and sorry this happened. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:13, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * ALT1b: ... that the launch of Intelsat 23 was the first of a Proton-M rocket since the launch of Telkom-3 and Ekspress MD2?
 * Telkom-3 is 2345 chars and Ekspress MD2 is 2192 chars. However duplication detector says that have at least 1436 chars in common. I don't know whether I want to spend my time doing more work on this as I'd rather write new content. Regardless of the wikiproject the failed launch is considerably more notable than a dead satellite.. Secretlondon (talk) 16:10, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
 * In that case, why not make it a double hook? As Ekspress MD2 is the parent article, it gets to be the bolded one, while Telkom-3, as the duplicating child, is ineligible for DYK at the present time. That would leave the following (restoring the failed launch, which I hope is still mentioned and inline sourced in the bolded articles):
 * ALT1c: ... that the launch of Intelsat 23 was the first of a Proton-M rocket since the failure while launching the Ekspress MD2 and Telkom-3 satellites?
 * Do you think that one will work? (Maybe it could be more concise? Or use "its failure" rather than "the failure"?) —BlueMoonset (talk) 05:17, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your patience with this. You do talk about launching satellites, it doesn't need the rocket in there again. Secretlondon (talk) 10:35, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
 * ALT1d: ... that the launch of Intelsat 23 was the first of a Proton-M rocket since the failed launch of Ekspress MD2 and Telkom-3?


 * Symbol confirmed.svg ALT1d approved. Both bolded articles in hook meet DYK guidelines. All earlier hooks have been struck. BlueMoonset (talk) 08:28, 29 October 2012 (UTC)