Template:Did you know nominations/Italian cave salamander


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The result was: promoted by G S Palmer (talk • contribs) 20:37, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Italian cave salamander, Ambrosi's cave salamander

 * ... that where their ranges overlap, the Italian cave salamander (pictured) sometimes hybridises with Ambrosi's cave salamander?
 * Reviewed: French cruiser Amiral Charner
 * Comment: Reviewed this double hook

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self nominated at 08:58, 14 September 2014 (UTC).


 * Review for Italian cave salamander: nominated for DYK one day after expansion began, and was expanded from 270 bytes to about 1900, satisfying date and length criteria. A snippet view on Google Books of the 1978 version of A Field Guide to the Reptiles and Amphibians of Britain and Europe states this salamander is also found in SE France (page 36, #5). It also states the toes are "stubby", whereas this article says "pointed". Are these facts superceded by more recent research? Other than that, all other text is well-sourced, and I'm assuming good faith for the offline ref #2. Mind  matrix  17:35, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Review for Ambrosi's cave salamander: nominated for DYK one day after expansion began, and was expanded from 323 bytes to 2240, satisfying date and length criteria. I am assuming good faith for ref #2, which is used to support the bulk of the article. The IUCN ref indicates that a sub-population may be reassigned to S. italicus, which I think merits inclusion in the article. (It also mentions additional details for habitat, which would also be welcome in the article.) Please remove opinion/commentary "is of some reassurance". Please fix copy/paste error for "Italian cave salamander" in status section. Overall, only a few minor issues to address for this article. Mind  matrix  17:53, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg Overall review: double QPQ completed. Assuming good faith for offline ref (same one for both articles). Hook is reasonable length and has a citation in both articles; as it is offline, I will assume good faith for this. Image appears to be OK and has a CC licence. There are only a few outstanding minor issues to address.  Mind  matrix  17:56, 9 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the review. The Collins book is back in the public library so I can no longer refer to it. The distribution of the Italian cave salamander comes from the IUCN source and that does not mention southeastern France and I have removed the mention of the toes being pointed. With regard to Ambrosi's cave salamander, I have made the alterations you suggest. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:30, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Symbol voting keep.svg Good to go. My only concern regarding mention of southeastern France is the difference of the described ranges in the sources, but I'll accept the more recent version from IUCN as having greater accuracy. (It also appears that Google has pulled the snippet view of A Field Guide to the Reptiles and Amphibians of Britain and Europe since I previously accessed it.) Mind  matrix  14:57, 24 October 2014 (UTC)