Template:Did you know nominations/Jacqueline Noel


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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:17, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Jacqueline Noel

 * ... that Jacqueline Noel, Tacoma city librarian in the 1920s, named the Almond Roca candy from the Spanish word roca (rock in English)? Source: Simpson, J.M. "A candied history" ( Pleased that the almond and chocolate coating made the candy less messy, Brown handed out samples to Tacoma's residents, including Tacoma Public Library librarian Jacqueline Noel. She named it Almond Roca. Company lore holds that Noel chose the name because of the candy's hard crunch that was somewhat rock-like. At the time, many almonds were imported from Spain, and "roca" is the Spanish word for rock.)
 * ALT1: ... that librarian Jacqueline Noel gave Almond Roca candy its name?
 * Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Manon Antoniazzi

Created by Elisa.rolle (talk). Self-nominated at 10:07, 15 August 2017 (UTC).


 * Symbol question.svg	New enough, and maybe long enough—1,600 characters with spaces, 1,350 without. Rather than nitpick that, I'd say this article could be longer. I reworded the original hook for ALT1. What do you think, Elisa.rolle? Morganfitzp (talk) 01:28, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Morganfitzp: I added some details to the article to make it longer, and good for me to go with the shorter hook ALT1 Elisa.rolle (talk) 08:03, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
 * * Symbol question.svg With the information presented, making the article longer would only mean adding words without adding new information. There are other sources (like this, or this) that repeat the what we already have, and adding them may expand the article by a few bytes, but it wouldn't improve the article. A challenge I see is that the hook essentially is the article, and the article should have more to it than just what's said in the hook. Some other info is out there regarding how she named the candy, and also about the organizations she participated in and what they did in Washington State 100 years ago. Morganfitzp (talk) 15:15, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Morganfitzp: the info I added is about the school she attended, Pratt Institute, that wasn't in the article before and that is a quite important school, and the fact that she was an assistant librarian in La Grande, Oregon. She is basically important for the librarian activity she did, and that is in the article. The other organization are mentioned in the article as well, but she was a member therefore I do not think they are adding value if we expand them. The part related to the librarian work is quite detailed, the hook is about a "funny" fact, I did think was a nice hook. Elisa.rolle (talk) 15:20, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks Elisa.rolle. I agree: the hook is fine. But the article doesn't give us much more than "this librarian named a candy made by a local company." Sure, she went to Pratt, served in some community organizations, and worked her way up in her field. What else? What was the work she was doing as a librarian and in these orgs? What challenges did women face in achieving the status she achieved a century ago? Can we make a compelling article to go with the compelling hook? Morganfitzp (talk) 15:31, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Morganfitzp: I added some more details, but now if we want to expand it, we need the help of someone who can access sources I cannot. Elisa.rolle (talk) 22:33, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg	Expansion looks great! And doing the math, I noticed that she took that secretaryship at the age of 10—Another notable fact!Morganfitzp (talk) 00:15, 30 August 2017 (UTC)