Template:Did you know nominations/Jacquemijntje Garniers


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The result was: promoted by Mifter (talk) 21:35, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Jacquemijntje Garniers

 * ... that despite being a widow with four children to provide for, Jacquemijntje Garniers owned three houses and several silver objects when she died? Source: http://resources.huygens.knaw.nl/bwn1780-1830/DVN/lemmata/data/Garniers (in Dutch)
 * Reviewed: Yume Miyamoto and Laguna Socompa

Moved to mainspace by SkyGazer 512 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:34, 6 November 2018 (UTC).


 * Symbol confirmed.svg good, no policy issues, no copyvios, long enough, hook short enough and interesting, no images. QPQ done. L293D (☎ • ✎) 02:25, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but I don't see what's hooky about it. Plenty of widows inherit from their husbands. Yoninah (talk) 23:27, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I personally thought it was interesting when I came across the fact in the source, but I do see what you mean and where you're coming from. I'll try to see if I can find any other hooks but I can't guarantee that I can get to it tonight.-- SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 03:03, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
 * There's really not that much I can find that's interesting, besides the hook I provided. There is the fact that this source says "dit keer met de schipper Cornelis Bontecraey. Volgens Bredius duidt dit erop dat zij ‘manziek’ was" which translates roughly to "this time with the skipper Cornelis Bontecraey. According to Bredius, this indicates that she was 'manic'" which might could turn into something. There's also the fact that multiple sources say that she was a painter but state that no paintings by her have been found. I'm ok with this being failed if no one can think of anything else; I've never been the type who thinks that all new articles must appear in DYK if there are no interesting hooks. I'll try to look around some more and see if I can think of anything else later.-- SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 15:39, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I see what you mean. With the extensive history of her marriages, I'm also finding it hard to see why she's notable, just because she was a midwife and painter. But maybe we could try something like:
 * ALT1: ... that two of the four husbands of 17th-century midwife Jacquemijntje Garniers were artists, one of whom painted portraits of her that were sold centuries later? Yoninah (talk) 18:56, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
 * It was her son who painted it according to the source, not her husband. I've clarified that in the article.-- SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 19:03, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
 * ALT2: ... that two portraits of 17th-century midwife Jacquemijntje Garniers by her son, the Dutch painter Gabriël Metsu, sold in London and Paris more than 200 years later? Yoninah (talk) 19:13, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm not entirely sure if it would be considered "interesting to a broad audience", but if you think it's good enough I certainly have no objections. I would be happy to go with this for now and if the next reviewer thinks something more interesting is needed we could try to think of something else.-- SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 19:17, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Yes, I think it's interesting enough. Reviewer needed for ALT2. Pinging . Yoninah (talk) 19:32, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg hook short enough (161 chars) and interesting. I haven't re-checked the article, but I assume it hasn't been changed much. L293D (☎ • ✎</b>) 13:27, 18 December 2018 (UTC)