Template:Did you know nominations/James Stratford (publisher)


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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:02, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

James Stratford (publisher)

 * ... that British publisher James Stratford was declared bankrupt in 1813 and later held at Fleet Prison (pictured)?
 * ALT1a:... that in the 1810s, British publisher James Stratford was jailed in the Fleet Prison (pictured) for debt?
 * Reviewed: Franco-Irish Ambulance Brigade

Created by Philafrenzy (talk) and Whispyhistory (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 19:59, 4 December 2018 (UTC).


 * Symbol question.svg Can a new hook be proposed here? It doesn't seem to be very interesting, and the connection between bankruptcy and being held in prison seems obtuse. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:52, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Added Alt1a. Did you get that he was jailed because he was bankrupt? I think it is interesting because we don't put people in jail for debt any more as that makes it difficult for them to pay. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:24, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
 * The interest here is rather subjective, to be honest. I suppose it could work, but it's not the most interesting part about his life, in my opinion. What about his part-works? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:17, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 * "The interest here is rather subjective". What does that mean? I think interest is always subjective. I personally think that the hook is interesting because it's so unusual. SL93 (talk) 03:23, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Honestly I'm not sure if it's really considered "unusual". It is now and apparently wasn't back then, but I'm not sure if readers would know that. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:35, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing the readers won't know that, which I believe makes it a perfect hook because it gets the article read. SL93 (talk) 03:38, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

Seems the nominator and I can't come to an agreement here, requesting another reviewer to give their thoughts. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:15, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg This article is new enough and long enough. The image is in the public domain, the hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. I find the use of the prison for debtors interesting, - Mr Micawber spent some time there if I remember correctly. A QPQ has been done so this should be good to go. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:25, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg I agree with —this is not a "perfect hook". If we're talking about 19th-century England, I immediately think of Charles Dickens novels and debtors' prison. If this doesn't appear in the image slot (which it may well not), it has nothing to carry it. and  can we have a hookier hook please? Yoninah (talk) 18:21, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * ALT2:... that books published by Georgian publisher James Stratford had as many as 149 parts? Philafrenzy (talk) 18:44, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * thanks. But that was only one book, and we don't know that he didn't publish larger books. Could we phrase it:
 * ALT2a: ... that Georgian publisher James Stratford printed one book with 149 parts? Yoninah (talk) 21:16, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * ALT2b: ... that among the books produced by Georgian publisher James Stratford was one of 149 parts?
 * Symbol voting keep.svg Nice. Let's go with ALT2b. Offline hook ref AGF and cited inline. Rest of review per Cwmhiraeth. ALT2b good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:30, 5 January 2019 (UTC)