Template:Did you know nominations/Jane Little (musician)


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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 04:56, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Jane Little (musician)

 * ... that Jane Little, 4-feet 11-inches in height, played a 6-foot tall double bass for the Atlanta Symphony for 71 years, until collapsing onstage at age 87 - a World Record for tenure with a single orchestra?



Created by SageGreenRider (talk) and Cgingold (talk). Nominated by Cgingold (talk) at 07:47, 23 May 2016 (UTC).


 * Symbol confirmed.svg Looks good to me. Article is long enough, new enough, well-sourced, has no NPOV/copyvio issues. Hook is verified through reference 3.  Sounder Bruce  20:14, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg The way this hook is written, it seems to capitalize on tragedy. There are also too many numbers here, and you need to convert them for Wikipedia's foreign audiences. I would write it this way (though, as you can see, ALT1 still has way too many numbers):
 * ALT1: ... that Jane Little, 4 ft in height, played a 6 ft tall double bass for the Atlanta Symphony for 71 years – a world record for tenure with a single orchestra?
 * ALT2: ... that Jane Little played double bass for the Atlanta Symphony for 71 years – a Guinness World Record for tenure with a single orchestra?  Yoninah (talk) 23:22, 23 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks to both of you for your comments. On the issue raised by Yoninah about "capitalizing on tragedy", I respectfully disagree. Firstly, Ms. Little's sudden death was reported in very similar terms in the headlines of countless well-respected mainstream news outlets. Here is a sampling:
 * "An amazing way to go: Jane Little, world’s longest-serving orchestra musician, collapses and dies performing ‘There’s No Business Like Show Business’" (Washington Post)
 * "Jane Little, record-breaking symphony bassist, dies after collapsing on stage" (CBC)
 * "Woman who held record for longest tenure with an orchestra collapses on stage, dies" (CNN)
 * "Record-holding double bass player collapses on stage, later dies" (CBS News)
 * "Jane Little, Atlanta's Dainty Double-Bass Player For 71 Years, Dies Onstage" (NPR)
 * Were the circumstances of her death dramatic? Certainly. Was it a tragedy? I submit that her death onstage in fact highlights the incredible willpower of this amazing woman, who perservered despite numerous injuries and the daunting pain of cancer, and kept right on playing out of sheer determination. In short, she kept performing to the very end -- and the way she died was very much in keeping with how she lived her life. (Btw, I'm planning on adding a paragraph about this very subject to the article in the next day or two.) Having read half a dozen full-length articles about Ms. Little, I rather suspect she would be tickled by all those headlines! :) Cgingold (talk) 05:02, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
 * As for the concern about "too many numbers", let me give that some serious thought, before I comment one way or the other. Regards, Cgingold (talk) 05:05, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
 * ALT3: ... that little Jane Little played the much taller double bass for the Atlanta Symphony for 71 years – a Guinness World Record for tenure with a single orchestra? 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 13:32, 6 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment The numbers for her and the instrument's size are unnecessary.  Too much detail, which actually detracts from the 'hookiness', i.e., the likelihood of a view.  They muck up the hooks.  Original hook has 38 words, which is over lengthy and will just confuse readers.  Will not hold their interest to finish reading it.  Too many notes!
 * Her 'Carl Yastrzemski'-like length of tenure is the highlight. IMO. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 13:32, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
 * ALT4: ... that Jane Little  was short in stature, played a bigger instrument, and was longest in tenure, setting a Guinness World Record at the Atlanta Symphony?  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 14:31, 6 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed to consider the hook issues raised above, and give a second opinion. This has sat for too long without any resolution. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:05, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg Thank you, User:7&amp;6=thirteen, for hooks that are worthy of the name! Since the nominator stopped commenting here on May 24, and has not edited on Wikipedia since June 30 (there's an "indefinite vacation" notice on his talk page), I'm going ahead and approving this nom. ALT4 is the best! Hook refs verified and cited inline. Rest of review per User:SounderBruce. Yoninah (talk) 22:27, 7 July 2016 (UTC)