Template:Did you know nominations/Jean Abraham Grill


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The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 22:00, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Jean Abraham Grill

 * ... that 18th century merchant Jean Abraham Grill (pictured) was Sweden's first major drug runner?
 * Comment: This is the first time I do a DYK nomination on my own, so please don't bite too hard if something's not done the right way.
 * ALT1: ... that the 18th century Swedish merchant Jean Abraham Grill (pictured) imported expensive clocks and other mechanical automatons to China?
 * Comment: In case you want a "nicer" hook for the DYK. :) w.carter -Talk  23:33, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment: In case you want a "nicer" hook for the DYK. :) w.carter -Talk  23:33, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Created by W.carter (talk). Self nominated at 21:13, 28 September 2014 (UTC).


 * Symbol question.svg This article meets the length and age criteria. No POV issues. The first hook is cited to a Swedish language source. The first reference used in the article is a blog and hence doesn't meets WP:RS. AGF on the Swedish language sources. The NYT ref doesn't mention Grill. Since Grill died in 1792 I think the image is in Public Domain and its licencing information should be changed accordingly.--Skr15081997 (talk) 11:41, 1 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the review. :) Can't do anything about the Swedish sources. I have not found any English for this guy, sorry. The first ref was actually not a blog. It was a PDF of part of a rare book published at a blog site. I have corrected the ref to the original book instead. Unfortunately many Swedish historical societies (and Museums(!) ) choose to publish their work and transcripts of old books via blog providers since they have limited knowledge of how to run a website. But the book exists and is available to the public via this PDF. The NYT was a ref to the automatons and not to Grill, the ref at the end of the section (mentioning Grill) covers the last four sentences. I have made a duplicate of that ref at the end of the sentence with the hook. The licencing of the picture is fixed. It seems like the uploader did not really comprehend what s(he) was doing. So, I've fixed as much as I can. Best, w.carter -Talk  12:30, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Symbol voting keep.svg Issues have been resolved. Image is in Public Domain. GTG.--Skr15081997 (talk) 14:39, 1 October 2014 (UTC)