Template:Did you know nominations/Jeff Allen (gridiron football)


 * The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as |this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 15:37, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Jeff Allen (gridiron football)

 * ... that defensive back Jeff Allen was traded twice during his career but played for neither of the teams that traded for him? Sources: "Coach wants Argos to shape up", "Sports", and PFR. First two sources not freely available.
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5x expanded by BU Rob13 (talk). Self-nominated at 11:59, 2 February 2017 (UTC).


 * I will be reviewing this shortly. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 20:27, 3 February 2017 (UTC)


 * New – had its prose portion expanded at least fivefold: is 346 B (64 words),   is  2121 B (367 words). This is a x6.1 / x5.7 expansion, totaling at least 1,500 characters.
 * Within policy – Article is neutral, well referenced with inline citations, and AFAIK free of copyright issues. None of the sources are online so it's hard to check, but I'm going to AGF here. Plus the article isn't written in the style of newspapers.
 * Hook is in correct format and fewer than 200 characters. It is neutral, and supported by inline citations (I can't access, but I'm going to AGF here). As for interesting, I find American football about as interesting as something very blergh, but I went WTF at the hook and it made me wonder who he did play for if not the teams that he got traded to. So I guess that qualifies at interesting enough for the front page. However, I wonder if it is accurate to say he was traded twice. Wouldn't the move to the San Diego Chargers be considered a trade?
 * QPQ – Done
 * Image – N/A
 * Comment when you write things like "In his final year with the Aggie", it would be nice to know what year that was. 1980 according to the source. Also should the infobox mention the San Francisco 49ers, since it also mention the BC Lions? Also, what happened after he joined the 49ers? Why/How did his career end? What is he up to now? This is nothing that prevents a DYK from being awarded, but I'm left with those questions.


 * Query needs to be addressed before DYK check can be awarded. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 20:49, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your review and comments. The move to the Chargers definitely isn't a trade, as the Chargers are in the NFL while the Lions are in the CFL. The leagues are entirely distinct (no inter-league trades), and teams do not retain the rights to players after they waive them from the roster. After Allen was released by the Dolphins, he would have been an unrestricted free agent to be picked up by any team in the NFL, even as he played in the CFL in 1981. I appreciate all your comments about improving the article. Sadly, I share some of those questions. I added the year to the "final year with the Aggies" statement. I left the 49ers out of the infobox because it was initially unclear whether he ever practiced with the team, whereas the trade to the Lions took place during the season, so he's virtually guaranteed to have practiced the very next day with the team. I dug some more and found a source saying he was cut from the team in August 1983, which indicates he attended training camp and possibly played in a couple preseason games. Added that information and added the team to the infobox. His retirement wasn't news, so I can't say much about it. I'm guessing he just failed to find another team to pick him up, but that's just my speculation. Outside of planned retirements, many NFL players just fade away after a couple seasons. Whatever he did after the NFL isn't in any source I can locate. ~ Rob 13 Talk 22:18, 3 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Query is addressed and no outstanding issues remains. This passes the DYK criteria under AGF for sources. Symbol voting keep.svg. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 22:26, 3 February 2017 (UTC)