Template:Did you know nominations/Jeffery Rowthorn


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The result was: promoted by Victuallers (talk) 11:13, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Jeffery Rowthorn

 * ... that Jeffery Rowthorn was born in Wales but became a Church of England priest and a bishop in the Episcopal Church of the United States?


 * ALT1: ... that Jeffery Rowthorn was born in Wales but was later elected a bishop in the Episcopal Church of the United States?
 * Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mining industry of Swaziland

5x expanded by Gaia Octavia Agrippa (talk). Self-nominated at 00:45, 28 August 2015 (UTC).


 * Why is this so unusual? Wales is a small country; a lot of people leave it and make their careers elsewhere. And as far as I know there's no requirement that Anglican or Episcopalian clergy be born in the country of their church. Daniel Case (talk) 06:05, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
 * As far as I am aware, there is no requirement for DYKs to be unusual, just interesting. However, it is not particularly common for an individual to be priested in one church and to become a bishop in another; especially when that involves moving continents. Wales may seem very small compared to the USA but there are much smaller countries in Europe. Gaia Octavia AgrippaTalk 11:28, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Going from being an Anglican priest to an Episcopal bishop really isn't that much a stretch IMHO. Daniel Case (talk) 23:02, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg This article is a five-fold expansion and is new enough and long enough. The article is neutral and I detected no policy issues. Sorry to be difficult, but Rowthern was not born in Gwent as that county did not exist at the time. He was born in the historic county of Monmouthshire, and the status of that county is unclear as to whether it was part of Wales or of England. The phrase "Wales and Monmouthshire" used to be used. It would be safer to not mention his birthplace as Wales in the hook. You could have ALT2 or go for him having been a bishop on two continents. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:23, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
 * ALT2:... that Jeffery Rowthorn was born in the United Kingdom but was later elected a bishop in the Episcopal Church of the United States?
 * Are you happy with ALT2? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:17, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Given the Monmouth controversy (thanks for pointing that out), I'm happy with alt2. Gaia Octavia AgrippaTalk 18:02, 3 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Symbol confirmed.svg ALT2 is supported in the article and the cited sources, so it is approved; the rest of the review is per Cwmhiraeth above. Have struck the original and ALT1 hooks per the Wales issue above. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:04, 9 October 2015 (UTC)