Template:Did you know nominations/John Crakehall


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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:33, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

John Crakehall

 * ... that the English ecclesiastic John Crakehall was present at Robert Grosseteste's deathbed and his account was used by Matthew Paris for his Chronica majora?
 * ALT1:... that although the medieval Treasurer of England John Crakehall was a clergyman sworn to celibacy, he had a daughter to whom he left part of his estate?
 * Reviewed: Léon Davent
 * Comment: Other hook suggestions welcomed.

Created by Ealdgyth (talk). Self-nominated at 15:19, 11 January 2017 (UTC).


 * Symbol question.svg Long enough, nominated in timely fashion, appears neutral and cited to reliable sources. QPQ done. No copyright problems found by Earwig or me. Both hooks are concise and (with the following nitpicks) supported by ODNB source. I found the first one dull (why should I care about Grosseteste/Paris/Chronica majora?). The second is more interesting but (nitpick) might require a reference for the celibacy part; also "half" isn't supported by ODNB. Both hooks need some tweaking to pipe links to the precise title for Chronica majora and Treasurer of England. Espresso Addict (talk) 04:58, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Ref added for the celibacy part. The link for Treasurer of England is the correct link - we don't have a specific article on the medieval office alone, which was not titled "Lord Treasurer" during the period. The link for Chronica majora is also correct - I'm not sure where else besides the manuscript work itself you think it might go? Or are you thinking we need it to Chronica Majora - that's actually not the correct title in Latin - "majora" shouldn't be capitalized, so the link is correct in the hook, rather than the article title it links to. Removed "half" and replaced with "part". Ealdgyth - Talk 15:06, 17 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Symbol confirmed.svg Thanks. Usually links on the main page try to avoid redirects by piping; Lord Treasurer redirects to Lord High Treasurer. If Chronica majora is the correct title, perhaps the article should be moved there? Though I note the incorrect capitalisation has a lot more inbound links. That very minor point aside, both hooks are good to go, though I prefer the second (Alt1). Espresso Addict (talk) 16:06, 17 January 2017 (UTC)