Template:Did you know nominations/John Messinger


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The result was: promoted by PanydThe muffin is not subtle 21:10, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

John Messinger

 * ... that John Messinger, the first Speaker of the Illinois House of Representatives, set the state line between Illinois and Wisconsin?
 * Reviewed: Global Citizenship Education

Created by Teemu08 (talk). Self nominated at 19:16, 27 August 2014 (UTC).

The hook is very interesting and is cited in the article. Excellent work on the article! Cunard (talk) 22:02, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Symbol voting keep.svg Following the review criteria here: Article creation date and length verified. The article is neutral and cites sources with inline citations. The sources are offline, so I take on good faith that it is free of close paraphrasing issues, copyright violations and plagiarism.

, the hook statement in the article is sourced: "He represented Illinois when the state line with the Territory of Michigan was formed, now the state line with Wisconsin."
 * Symbol possible vote.svg Pulled from prep because the hook statement in the article is unsourced. Gatoclass (talk) 14:00, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Cunard (talk) 03:32, 1 September 2014 (UTC)


 * That's right, it only says he "represented Illinois" when the state line was formed, it doesn't say he personally set it. Gatoclass (talk) 13:52, 1 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Would this rephrasing be acceptable? Teemu08 (talk) 18:31, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
 * ALT1 ... that John Messinger, the first Speaker of the Illinois House of Representatives, helped to set the state line between Illinois and Wisconsin?
 * ALT2 ... that John Messinger was responsible for surveying the state line between Illinois and Wisconsin?


 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed to see whether ALT1 solves the issues raised above and is properly supported in the article. Since this was overlooked in the original review, checks should probably be made to confirm that the other DYK criteria are also fully followed. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:27, 12 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Symbol confirmed.svg ALT1 is supported and cited by article emendment. Given that Messinger was a surveyor, he probably helped measure the boundary, but ya never know. Given his profession, I threw in another ALT.Georgejdorner (talk) 03:56, 17 October 2014 (UTC)