Template:Did you know nominations/Joseph Lyons (caterer)


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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:22, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Joseph Lyons (caterer)

 * ... that J. Lyons and Co. was named after Joseph Lyons (pictured) because his partners thought that associating their family names with catering would be beneath them? Source: "At this time the Salmon and Gluckstein families, successful tobacco merchants, were turning their attention to catering, seeing the need for good, cheap, clean places to get a cup of tea. They decided to operate a pilot scheme at exhibitions, needed someone to run it and act as ‘front man’, and turned to Lyons, who was a distant relative of Isidore Gluckstein's fiancée. Lyons agreed to run a tea pavilion at the Newcastle Jubilee Exhibition of 1887, and to use his name, because it was felt to be beneath the dignity of the Salmon and Gluckstein families to go into catering" (and [www.oxforddnb.com/view/article/37703], or briefly cite, the source)
 * ALT1:... that caterer Sir Joseph Lyons (pictured) invented a combined "microscope-binocular-compass"?
 * ALT2:... that caterer Sir Joseph Lyons staged Venice in London (pictured) in 1891 using 100 gondolas imported from Venice with their gondoliers?
 * Reviewed: Stephen P. Moss (Oregon politician)

Created by Edwardx (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Edwardx (talk) at 23:27, 11 November 2016 (UTC).


 * Symbol confirmed.svg New, long, neutral & referenced enough, main hook checks out per offline source quoted here. Earwigs says:" Violation Unlikely 1.0% confidence". Symbol voting keep.svg for the 2 ALT hooks - nothing given above. Both pics ok, but the relevance of the Venice one is given in the alt hook, so prefer the portrait, unless the Venice one is used. Slightly prefer the main hook & portrait. GTG Johnbod (talk) 04:04, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Surely the Venice hook and pic are by far the stronger of the three John? Philafrenzy (talk) 10:26, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the review, Johnbod. Even though the original hook is mine, and is therefore obviously excellent, Philafrenzy has a point! Edwardx (talk) 11:23, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Both are passed, so I'll leave it to the promoter to decide - I've no strong view. Philafrenzy: Somewhere I have a review of one of yours needing a response or action from you (for a long time). Please check & act. Thanks, Johnbod (talk) 17:12, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
 * It's the QPQ on Raphael Demos - he's next in line. Philafrenzy (talk) 17:55, 23 November 2016 (UTC)