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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 19:52, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

KPPC (AM)

 * ... that the first and last programs on radio station KPPC were services of the Pasadena Presbyterian Church? Source — I don't particularly like using pieces like these for hooks, but the 1924 newspaper article cited therein isn't available in newspapers.com, and it's the only source for the church service broadcasts in the summer of 1996, even after the station had ended all other broadcasts.
 * Reviewed: Golden State Killer
 * Comment: This was a new article created as part of the merger of KPPC (defunct) into KROQ-FM. The previous article mostly talked about the FM and had little information about the AM station.

Created by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 04:12, 19 May 2019 (UTC).


 * Symbol question.svg Can a better hook be proposed here? It sounds rather bland or inaccessible (like I'm not sure if many people outside of California know what the Pasadena Presbyterian Church is). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:15, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I realize I could have emphasized the continuity/longevity of these broadcasts better... Raymie (t • c) 02:49, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
 * ALT0a: that the first and last programs on radio station KPPC were services of the Pasadena Presbyterian Church, which were aired each Sunday for 72 years?
 * Sounds a lot better. I'll follow up with the full review soon. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:05, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm still a bit too busy to do the full review, but so far the article looks good. I think the hook could be rephrased somehow though: perhaps it could instead focus on the 72 years part? Another hook suggestion could be that they were planning to close the station but they found out they still had a number of months left in their permit? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:41, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Why do I feel that might be a bit...dry for a DYK? Raymie (t • c) 03:05, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't know about you but personally I think that a station continuing broadcasting after winding down their operations because they found out they still had time left in their permit sounds quirky. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:46, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * ALT1: ... that after going off the air, KPPC radio went on air once a week for six five months to fulfill a contract to broadcast church services? Raymie (t • c) 21:11, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * That's a rather confusing hook at first read, how can a station "go off the air" then "go on air" again? At least that's likely what the average reader might think. The hook could probably be rephrased further. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:36, 13 June 2019 (UTC)


 * ALT1a: ... that after discontinuing normal programming, KPPC radio broadcast once a week for five months to fulfill a contract to broadcast church services? Raymie (t • c) 04:23, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I think that's more like it. Will try to follow up with the full review by tomorrow. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:55, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
 * One more suggestion: ALT1a can probably be rephrased because the wording "KPPC radio broadcast" sounds vague, since in this case broadcast can be (mis)interpreted as being a noun instead of a verb. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:43, 14 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Good catch, also avoids using the same word twice in the same sentence... Raymie (t • c) 18:43, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
 * ALT1b: ... that after discontinuing normal programming, KPPC radio signed on once a week for five months to fulfill a contract to broadcast church services?


 * Symbol question.svg While the article meets newness and length requirements, as well as meeting the QPQ and paraphrasing requirements, the lede seems really short considering the length of the article. I know this isn't a GA, but the lede really ought to be more than two short sentences. In addition, there are some unsourced statements in the article, such as the last sentence of the last paragraph of the last section. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:42, 21 June 2019 (UTC)


 * I just beefed up the lede and added a few more needed citations. Raymie (t • c) 02:19, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg Thanks, this should be ready to go now. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 07:29, 29 June 2019 (UTC)