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The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 16:09, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Karen Boccalero
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 * ... that printmaker Karen Boccalero (pictured) was "a progressive, chain-smoking, cussing nun"?

Created by Penny Richards (talk). Self nominated at 15:35, 9 March 2015 (UTC).


 * Comment: Entry created at Meetup/LA/ArtAndFeminism/LACMA 2015 edit-athon.
 * Reviewed: Janice Wright-Cheney


 * Symbol question.svg Fascinating woman, good sources. I don't find when in life she became a nun and think it would make a difference. The hook attracts to click, but seems a bit one-sided and a POV that doesn't show other than in the quotation marks. (I remember the uproar when "we" proclaimed "Jesus Christ Is Risen Today", clearly a quotation but still causing an uproar.) - Perhaps start "... that printmaker Karen Boccalero, described as a "progressive, chain-smoking, cussing nun", ...? and then something she did, such as founded that self-help, or include Mexican culture? - I added an image, - it's not great but that doesn't matter so much in stamp-size. Nice to meet her! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:41, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Good questions! I haven't been able to figure out when she became a nun--in the 1950s, I suspect, definitely long before she founded Self-Help Graphics. I don't know if that's the kind of thing that gets announced, like a wedding or a college degree; but I'll keep looking. As for the hook, I see your point; maybe this slightly different alt would address the concern but keep the hook concise? I added an ALT2 to include something she did, but that starts to get wordy, so I prefer ALT1.
 * ALT1: ... that printmaker Karen Boccalero (pictured) was remembered as a "progressive, chain-smoking, cussing nun"?
 * ALT2: ... that Italian-American nun Karen Boccalero (pictured) directed a community arts center in East Los Angeles?
 * Open to other possibilities; thank you for your time and careful review.Penny Richards (talk) 18:13, 10 March 2015 (UTC)


 * All sourced, agree that ALT2 is the weakest. I don't care too much about locations and nationality, + Italian-American is almost in her name. What do you think of the combination
 * ALT3: ... that Karen Boccalero (pictured), founding director of a community arts center, was remembered as a "progressive, chain-smoking, cussing nun"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:17, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh! I like that. Thank you!Penny Richards (talk) 22:21, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:28, 10 March 2015 (UTC)