Template:Did you know nominations/Konya Tropical Butterfly Garden


 * The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as |this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:39, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Konya Tropical Butterfly Garden
Source: "Konya Tropical Butterfly Garden, which has the largest butterfly flight area in Europe, ...." 
 * ... that the Konya Tropical Butterfly Garden has the largest butterfly flight area in Europe?
 * Reviewed: Emily Valentine

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 13:47, 26 January 2019 (UTC).


 * Symbol confirmed.svg Article was created within the last seven days, is over the required prose size and has no copyvio issues. The hook is interesting and has an inline citation to a reliable source. User has supplied a QPQ review to meet the requirement, good to go. Kosack (talk) 08:36, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Symbol possible vote.svg Returned from queue with hook and article issues. Here is the pertinent conversation at ERRORS:


 * there is an issue with the nomination at Template:Did you know nominations/Konya Tropical Butterfly Garden, which is part of the DYK set due to go live at midnight today. The hook says it "has the largest butterfly flight area in Europe", but it isn't actually in Europe. It's in the Asian part of Turkey smiley.png. Are you able to come up with an alternative hook that we could use? If not, I will replace it and reopen the nomination page. Thanks &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 11:37, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 * It is said "in Europe" because Turkey, as a country, is considered part of Europe. You can check it in all politicial, economic, sportive etc. issues. It doesn't matter that the site in question is located geographically in the Asian part of the country. CeeGee 15:30, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 * It matters to this reader. There is a huge difference between "in Europe" and "in a European country". Or can things in French Guiana be considered for "largest/fastest/smallest/most expensive/etc in Europe"? This hook is blatantly false and should not appear. --Khajidha (talk) 16:41, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 * What a logic! CeeGee 10:22, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree we should pull it. I am not up on the technical aspects of the DYK system, so I can't do it, but this is clearly a dispute, and until the dispute is resolved, we should either pull it or move it to a later posting, to get the wording correct.  I too am uncomfortable describing a thing which is physically located on the Asian continent as being "the largest in Europe", and as such, I think we need a better hook.  Unless we can fix it in the next few hours, we should move this back to the prep area, take another good hook to replace this one, and get this one right.  -- Jayron 32 17:36, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 * What Jayron said: both that it should be switched out and discussed some more without the time constraint, and that I'm not up on the intricacies of the DYK system. Pinging, who has (from a review of the queue history) pulled DYK hooks recently and appears to know what they are doing. --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:12, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh good grief. Didn't notice they were the ones who started this thread. I think there's enough agreement that Amakuru could make this change without being "involved".  I would certainly do it myself if I knew how. --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:14, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I've just gone ahead and removed the hook. Anyone who sees this and understands DYK, please reopen the discussion, and replace with a new hook.  In case no one who understands DYK sees this, I'll also ping WT:DYK.  --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:57, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks Floq. Apologies, I was out and about tonight so didn't see this message until just now. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 22:23, 14 February 2019 (UTC)


 * New hook needed. Yoninah (talk) 23:23, 14 February 2019 (UTC)


 * ALT1: ... that the building of the Konya Tropical Butterfly Garden has the form of a butterfly? CeeGee 10:26, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Reviewer needed for ALT1 hook. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:25, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The article presently has a "dubious" tag which needs to be addressed, before the nomination can be approved. Flibirigit (talk) 04:48, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Dubious tag has been addressed. Reviewer still needed for ALT1 hook. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:09, 3 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the citation fix. Could somebody please organize the article with a proper introduction, then a "history" or "description" section. It looks extremely awkward with a table of contents at the bottom. I'm happy to review the hook with a bit of formatting to the article. Flibirigit (talk) 06:30, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

( Approving ALT1 as being verified in the inline source, rest of the review per above. It would have been nice if there was a picture of the building to go along with the article, but I guess that's unfeasible at this time. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:58, 3 March 2019 (UTC)