Template:Did you know nominations/Korean student movement


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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 07:21, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Korean student movement

 * ... that the Gwangju Massacre was the turning point of the Korean student movement?



Created by Lemineko (talk), Audtls910 (talk), and Markmeyoung (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 06:26, 26 May 2016 (UTC).


 * Comment A project by my students. I've reviewed List of public art in the City of Sydney as QPQ nomination since I nominated their work here. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 07:14, 26 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Symbol possible vote.svg QPQ complete, length and age are fine. No copyvio issues that I can find. However, there are far too many issues with language for me to pass this at the moment. This needs a serious copy-edit, and issues with NPOV also need to be sorted out. For example: "liberation from the oppressive rule of Japan," "with other duped parties," etc are not phrases I would like to see in a finished product. The prose does not have to be GA quality, but obvious typos ("coorporation") and ungrammatical sentences ("...tear gas grenade penetrated his skull and died on July 5" (It's not the grenade which died)) need correction. Additionally, I would suggest retitling the article "student movements in Korea" or something like that; a title which does not suggest that was a single movement. Piotrus, you have plenty of content experience; surely you could fix these issues yourself? It is a very creditable effort for students, but not quite ready for the main page, I believe. If you fix these, let me know, and I'll take another look. Regards, Vanamonde93 (talk) 21:50, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I have moved the page to Student movements in Korea. I don't know what this means for the nomination, but hopefully it will work if the redirect is left in place. I have fixed some of the grammar issues, and a couple of neutrality problems. But there is still a strong attitude in favour of the student movements. There is still a citation needed in there though. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 05:28, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * With grades issued, the chance of the students fixing this are just a bit better then the proverbial snowflake in hell, so here you go - I added the req cite :) I hope it helps. Let me know what else is there to fix; regarding the POV issues I do not think they are serious enough to warrant tagging. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 06:22, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Piotrus; the verifiability issue is fixed to my satisfaction. It still reads a little like a student paper (which it is, I suppose) but I don't think demanding a complete overhaul is appropriate at DYK. I would ask that you fix two things; the second paragraph of the "1970-1980" section, which has editorial-like language, and the very last sentence, which is rather unclear (surely comfort women are a thing of the past?) Finally, I think the hook is a little confusing; I'd suggest something like " massacre turned the movement toward marxism" but I'll leave it to you to propose something specific, so that a new reviewer is not required. Vanamonde93 (talk) 07:50, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I read it and I don't see any WP:EDITORIALIZING in that para, but I did rewrite and expand it and the last para. I hope it is better now? As for the hook, I also have a new ALT to consider below.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 08:50, 27 June 2016 (UTC)


 * ALT1 ... that the South Korean student movement of the 1980s played a key role in the democratization of their country?
 * Yes, that is fine, thank you. I feel the hook is a bit of a generalization; can you add "of the 1980s" or equivalent in there somewhere? Then we will be good to go. Vanamonde93 (talk) 09:21, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Updated the hook above accordingly. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 10:07, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Great. This is Symbol voting keep.svg GTG, with ALT1. I have struck the original hook to avoid confusion. Thanks for seeing it through, Piotrus. Vanamonde93 (talk) 10:12, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I've added a "the" after the initial "that" and another "the" before "democratization" in ALT1 so the hook flows better. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:51, 27 June 2016 (UTC)