Template:Did you know nominations/Larry Twitchell


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The result was: promoted by — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:32, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Larry Twitchell

 * ... that Larry Twitchell (pictured) compiled an 11–1 pitching record and .333 batting average and hit a home run in the 1887 World Series for the Detroit baseball team?
 * Reviewed: soccer kick

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nominated at 15:17, 11 June 2014 (UTC).


 * Comment: to non-baseball fans, and especially those living in countries where baseball is not popular (i.e. most of the world outside the Americas), these statistics are fairly meaningless. As an Australian, the only thing I vaguely understand from the hook is that he hit a home run. I assume that they were significant achievements, though, so perhaps the level of interest to baseball-familiar readers is high enough to disregard the likelihood that it will mean nothing to others...? I don't know. Just a thought. 97198 (talk) 12:55, 13 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Symbol possible vote.svg Article is long enough and was 5x expanded recently enough. While the hook says he batted .331, the article says .333.  I would agree with 97198's comment above that the hook is too statistics-centric for non-baseball fans with no context to interpret them. Perhaps the part about "The high point of his career came on August 15, 1889, when he hit for the cycle ..." would make for a more tangible hook.—Bagumba (talk) 17:08, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
 * ALT1: ... that according to a 1905 newspaper article, Major League Baseball player Larry Twitchell held the unofficial record for the longest throw of a baseball at 407 ft?
 * ALT2: ... that in 1889 Cleveland Spiders baseball player Larry Twitchell hit for the cycle, hitting a single, a double, three triples, and a home run in six at bats? Yoninah (talk) 20:42, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay in responding. I was on vacation away from my home country for the last half of the month.  From a baseball perspective, it is quite extraordinary for a player to excel simultaneously in pitching (an 11-1 record) and hitting (.333 was far above average at the time).  (I fixed the typo in the hook from .331 to .333.)  But if that's considered too "inside baseball," either of the alts are fine as well. Cbl62 (talk) 23:13, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed for ALTs. Yoninah (talk) 01:19, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg Full review. I agree with Bagumba that it's new enough (expanded 10 June, nom 11 June) and long enough. QPQ done. Hook image is free, and also appears in article (love that photopose!). The other image in the article is also free. Original hook (164 char.) is referenced to online citation #1 which (due to being British and having a baseball-shaped gap in my brain) I'll take AGF. I think the original hook is appropriate because (a) it's mostly baseball fans who will click on a baseball hook anyway and (b) if you're going to give the baseball fans a hook, it might as well be exciting for them, even though it may cause brain-pixellation in the rest of us. ALT1 (172 char.) is referenced to offline citation #5, taken AGF. ALT2 (155 char.) is referenced to offline citations #6 and #7, taken AGF. Text is objective and neutral, and fully referenced. No access problems with external links (full manual check done). Re possible copyvio and close paraphrasing: external links checked with dup detector; none found. Minor issue: "Ed Crane" is a disambig link (full manual check done for disambigs). When the minor issue is resolved, this nom should be OK with original hook, ALT1 or ALT2. --Storye book (talk) 11:44, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Disambiguation of Ed Crane fixed. Cbl62 (talk) 15:20, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Symbol voting keep.svg Thank you, Cbl62. Good to go with original hook, ALT1 or ALT2. --Storye book (talk) 15:45, 2 July 2014 (UTC)