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Later life of José de San Martín

 * ... that José de San Martín (pictured) died in Boulogne-sur-Mer, France?
 * Reviewed: Statue of Oliver Cromwell, Westminster
 * Comment: Please move this to the special day area, for August 17 (death of San Martín)

Created/expanded by Cambalachero (talk). Self nom at 14:03, 3 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Symbol question.svg New article, long enough, with one foreign language book used as reference (refs give page ranges, so that's good). All good on that front. The article needs a good copyedit by a native English speaker before it's ready for the homepage (I have asked George Ponderevo whether he could apply his magic). I also recommend that the lead should start something like this: "The later life of José de San Martín focusses on the period after his resignation from his political offices...". As it stands, you only know from the article's title that this isn't supposed to be a bio covering the person's whole life. Once the copyedit has been done and the lead been reworded, it should be good to go.  Schwede  66  19:06, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I have changed the lead as requested, and User:Schwede66 made some copy edits. Is it good to go now? If not, what should specifically be fixed? Cambalachero (talk) 14:07, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * No, I have not attempted a complete copyedit, and given that I'm not a native English speaker myself, I don't think I'm qualified enough to do so (when I write an article from scratch, it may be good enough, but I find it challenging to sufficiently improve prose for articles written by others).  Schwede 66  18:37, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I strongly object to you editing my above comment, Cambalachero! I did not ask for a review by another editor, but I asked for the article to be copyedited. You may ask for the article to be reviewed by somebody else yourself, but do not make it look like that I asked for it. Your behaviour is not acceptable.  Schwede  66  21:45, 12 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Symbol redirect vote4.png Have a look at it now. Hopefully my ignorance of the subject matter didn't lead me to mess anything up. --Yngvadottir (talk) 13:08, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * It is fine, the meaning was not changed. There was a minor typing mistake in a "themselves", but I have fixed it. Cambalachero (talk) 15:03, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting keep.svg Good work, Yngvadottir. The original hook is good to go now. Thinking about the hook, though, the original one doesn't really give that much context (one must know who the guy is for the hook to work). So below, I suggest an alternative. The fact comes from the main article and needs to be stated in the later life article, plus it needs to be referenced. So how about this one? And given that the hook will run on the day of his death, I wonder whether that fact can be worked into yet another hook?  Schwede 66  19:01, 13 August 2012 (UTC)


 * ALT1 ... that Argentina's national hero, José de San Martín (pictured), died in Boulogne-sur-Mer, France?
 * Seems fine by me Cambalachero (talk) 19:23, 13 August 2012 (UTC)


 * ALT2 ... that José de San Martín, national hero of Argentina (pictured), died 162 years ago today in Boulogne-sur-Mer, France? Yngvadottir (talk) 00:30, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Just to be clear, the AGF tick above is for the original hook, which is somewhat dull. ALT1 and ALT2 are much better hooks, but it needs to be added to the article that Martín was a "national hero of Argentina", and that fact needs to be referenced.  Schwede 66  19:01, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Can we settle this at once? Cambalachero (talk) 20:07, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting keep.svg ALT1 and ALT2 are good to go; my preference is for ALT2.  Schwede 66  20:15, 14 August 2012 (UTC)