Template:Did you know nominations/Lawrence Minard


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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:21, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Lawrence Minard

 * ... that Lawrence Minard has a business journalism award named after him?

Created by Websurfer2 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:47, 17 April 2019 (UTC).


 * -Nizil (talk) 05:09, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg, thank you for your interest in DYK. I see that it is your first DYK. The article has just one issue to be resolved and it will receive the approval. The article is new, long enough, neutral and within policy and cited. Hook is OK and cited. The editor is new to DYK so no QPQ is required. I have removed "award winning" from lede as per MOS:PUFF. Only one issue remains: Minard became a special correspondent in Asia in 1978. He was promoted to Europe bureau chief in London in 1979, West Coast and Asia bureau chief in Los Angeles in 1983, assistant managing editor in 1985, deputy managing editor in 1987, and managing editor in 1989. This sentence is very close to its sources (borderline copyvio). Can you reword it? -Nizil (talk) 05:37, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I changed the wording. I would love to flesh-out that paragraph with more detail, but info is hard to come by. Websurfer2 (talk) 07:29, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg Thanks for reword. Congratulations, I am approving your first DYK. Keep contributing more to DYK and Wikipedia. Regards,-Nizil (talk) 17:30, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg While the hook is fine, it probably could be better. Considering that his claim to fame (other than the award) was working for Forbes, it doesn't seem right to not mention that somewhere in a hook. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:17, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
 * The hook is a teaser to get someone to click on the link. Mentioning Forbes gives away the entire lede. Websurfer2 (talk) 22:31, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Speaking as an outsider, I'm not really sure if that is really the case. I won't click on it unless I had an idea of who this Minard person is or why he is important. Teaser hooks can and do work but I personally don't think this is such a circumstance. Thoughts? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:04, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, I found original hook interesting enough. But people may feel differently. I propose an alternative here. What do you both think? -Nizil (talk) 14:03, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * ALT1: that Lawrence Minard won the Business Journalist of the Year award twice while working at the Forbes Global?


 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed to give opinion on ALT1 hook and whether the original hook was interesting enough. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:21, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg Both hooks LGTM and are confirmed. I would have a slight preference for the original hook as short & sweet ("that Lawrence Minard has a business journalism award named after him").  Unlike Naruto, I don't see the establishment he worked for as particularly interesting; he's a journalist, doesn't matter too much where.  Many DYK hooks require a lot of explanation to be sensible; don't throw away a good snappy hook.   SnowFire (talk) 00:30, 24 May 2019 (UTC)