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Lord Alex Oakwell

 * ... that during Emmerdale's 25th anniversary episode, Lord Alex Oakwell caused the death of established character Linda Fowler?
 * Reviewed: Rukwa Valley

Created/expanded by JuneGloom07 (talk). Self nom at 18:43, 2 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Symbol possible vote.svg Dull hook. There have been a lot of episodes of TV shows where one character caused the death of another. Plus, like the article lede, it's a bit too in-universe, which it seems to me we try to avoid in DYK hooks about fictional characters. Daniel Case (talk) 18:25, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
 * IMO The lede section captures the real world aspects. Here are some others ones that could be used.


 * ALT 1: ... that Tony Purnell of the Daily Mirror said that Emmerdale character Lord Alex Oakwell was becoming the "biggest baddie" on television.
 * ALT 2: ... that a snow flurry disrupted the filming for an episode of Emmerdale, in which character Lord Alex Oakwell returned to the series. Rain  the 1  22:32, 22 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Symbol confirmed.svg Article was moved into mainspace on April 1st. It qualifies for DYK on the grounds of newness and length and is within policy. I would go for the original hook which I do not find uninteresting. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:14, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I wasn't raising the newness and length issues. But I still think we could have a better article, and better hooks. Yes, those other two are out-of-universe. But that still doesn't make them good hooks. If I was pressed I'd go with ALT1, but still ... we try to avoid hooks of the "X says something clever about  subject " variety unless the something clever is really over the top or it comes from an interesting speaker. ALT2 is more about that episode than the character. WP:IN-U will not be satisifed by just having the lede section not apply. There are several examples of FAs about TV show characters, Pauline Fowler, a character from another British soap opera, might be an interesting example to emulate. Daniel Case (talk) 02:46, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, the article is better now in that department. I still wish we had a better hook, but ... whatever. Daniel Case (talk) 02:47, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Here's another hook idea:
 * ALT3: ... that the actor who played Lord Alex Oakwell on Emmerdale was reportedly "thrilled" to get the part and described the character as "weak-willed, arrogant and motivated by self-preservation"? --Orlady (talk) 22:34, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Let's go for ALT3. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:35, 28 April 2012 (UTC)