Template:Did you know nominations/Lutherkirche, Wiesbaden


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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 21:35, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Lutherkirche, Wiesbaden

 * ... that the Lutherkirche in Wiesbaden has two great organs, one behind the altar (pictured) built by Walcker in 1911, the other opposite built by Klais in the 1970s?


 * Reviewed: Zourafa
 * Comment: too complicated to explain that the Walcker organ was found worthless in the 1970s, the Klais organ added, then Klais restored also the Walcker as a historic treasure

5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 14:16, 12 July 2015 (UTC).


 * Symbol question.svg It's certainly new enough, long enough, and well-written, but there's a big problem with the references - the "Architecture" and "Organs and church music" sections are almost completely unsourced. The hook is only half-sourced (a source is cited for the Klais organ but not the Walcker one). These issues need to be fixed before the article can be accepted. Prioryman (talk) 11:46, 16 July 2015 (UTC)


 * When I nominated, the article was different from what it is now ;) - What you call big problem is that more was translated from German where things are notoriously not referenced inline. Should we remove that until after DYK? (I hope that is a rhetoric question.) - I will go and see what I can do. Thank you, Furius, for expanding!
 * I added a ref for the organs, but have no more time now. Please be patient, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:57, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Update: more refs, - architecture still missing, but two paragraphs are simply descriptions of what the images show. I will have limited time until next week. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:05, 16 July 2015 (UTC)


 * With a bit of time, I searched for an equivalent for this this, but can't find Wiesbaden. - How about believing the official site (and the images) for architecture? Going to travel for a few days, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:06, 17 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Don't worry, I'm happy to wait till you get back. There's no great hurry. Prioryman (talk) 20:58, 17 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Back. I found a good ref, a review on a book on the subject (Karl Dienst). Wish I had the book ;) - What do think now? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:50, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, this looks pretty good now with the exception of the first paragraph of the "Exterior" section, which lacks any sources. Do you think you might be able to source this too? Prioryman (talk) 20:04, 26 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Compromise: I found a ref for the hight of the tower and the unusual roof construction, and dropped the other two figures (though probably correct and in the Baedeker, but I don't know which page) and the skyline thing, - really not needed ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:33, 26 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Symbol confirmed.svg I managed to find a source (the church's own website) for those two figures, so I've added them back. Well done and thanks again for your efforts in fixing the rest of the sourcing. I'm happy to sign this off now. Prioryman (talk) 21:14, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg 3 paragraphs lack any cites at all, per DYK rules. Yoninah (talk) 14:36, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Yoninah, did you read the review? The article was fine and everything sourced until Furius generously expanded, translating from German. Never again will I do that, promised. DYK can have minimum articles when for adding substance you get punished. German articles come without inline citations, I spent already hours finding sources, hours I could have used better creating articles. - For FA, you have to source contentious claims, but DYK is a different story. End of rant. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:31, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 * ps: nothing unsourced now, btw --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:43, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg Thank you! Restoring tick per Prioryman's review. Yoninah (talk) 20:22, 1 August 2015 (UTC)