Template:Did you know nominations/Mammon (painting)


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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:52, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Mammon (painting)

 * ... that Mammon (pictured) crushes "whatever is weak and gentle and timid and lovely"? A direct quote from the catalogue entry accompanying its original exhibition in 1885—citation here


 * Reviewed: Anastasie Fătu
 * Comment: As an article about a painting, probably ought to wait until there's a free image slot even if it means languishing for a while.

Created by Iridescent (talk). Self-nominated at 22:22, 27 September 2016 (UTC).

 * Some issues found.  *No overall issues detected Automatically reviewed by DYKReviewBot. This is not a substitute for a human review. Please report any issues with the bot. --DYKReviewBot (report bugs) 22:47, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
 * &#x2713; This article is new and was created on 19:24, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
 * &#x2713; This article meets the DYK criteria at 6713 characters
 * &#x2713; All paragraphs in this article have at least one citation
 * &#x2717; This article has the following issues:
 * from September 2013
 * &#x2713; A copyright violation is unlikely according to automated metrics (0.0% confidence; confirm)
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 * &#x2713; The media File:Watts – Mammon.jpg is free-use
 * &#x2713; The hook ALT0 is an appropriate length at 68 characters
 * &#x2713; Iridescent has more than 5 DYK credits. A QPQ review of Template:Did you know nominations/Anastasie Fătu was performed for this nomination.
 * Review Symbol confirmed.svg New article.  Long enough.  No copy violations or close paraphrasing.  Hook is sourced and all paragraphs have citations.  I did not have access to off line sources, but WP:AGF.  Note the nominator's request regarding timing and availability of a picture for the queu.  QPQ confirmed.  Nicely done.  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 00:03, 28 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Well, the article is about a painting, not Mammon himself. Suggest, ALT1: ... that George Frederic Watts' painting Mammon (pictured) depicts a Biblical character who "crushes whatever is weak and gentle and timid and lovely"? Verne Equinox (talk) 16:50, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Because Mammon isn't a biblical character? The hook as given is factually correct, since it shows Mammon crushing "whatever is weak and gentle and timid and lovely". &#8209; Iridescent 16:56, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I acknowledge my error. But I stand firm on the assertion that your article is about a painting, fundamentally. I therefore propose:
 * ALT2: Mammon (pictured) is a painting by George Frederic Watts showing the Biblical embodiment of greed, which "crushes whatever is weak and gentle and timid and lovely"?  Verne Equinox Verne Equinox (talk) 17:46, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment proposed ALT2 is needlessly verbose. How about:
 * ALT3: ... that George Frederic Watts's Mammon (pictured) depicts the Biblical embodiment of greed, which "crushes whatever is weak and gentle and timid and lovely"?  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 10:00, 2 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed to check ALT3, which I have labeled. I've struck the other hooks for the reasons noted above (and also restored ALT1 before striking it, because the review progression makes no sense without it). BlueMoonset (talk) 15:48, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Symbol voting keep.svg I'll go for ALT3 - hook referenced, assuming good faith on the source. good to go. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:54, 14 October 2016 (UTC)