Template:Did you know nominations/Mandatory eight count


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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:18, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Mandatory eight count

 * ... that the mandatory eight count was introduced in boxing to protect fighters from unnecessary damage? Source: Hudson Jr., David (2012). Boxing in America: An Autopsy. ABC-CLIO. p. 127
 * Reviewed: World Light Heavyweight Championship (National Wrestling Association)

Created by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 07:52, 22 May 2017 (UTC).


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 * Symbol question.svg Whilst the hook is valid, and supports the article, I have struggled slightly with the cited source (Hudson p127) as this does not explicitly state that the mandatory count of eight was introduced to protect fighters from unnecessary damage, yet this is obviously precisly what it was intended to do. Is there an additional source that could be added to support this? It is unclear to me whether this rule was introduced only to American boxing, or world-wide (I couldn't find this in the cited source, or follow its footnote 54 to check). I suggest that the hook could be made more explicit if it were along these lines, and would welcome comments:
 * ALT1* ... that the mandatory eight count was introduced to boxing in 1953 by the New York State Athletic Commission in order to protect fighters from unnecessary damage?
 * I have also spotted the date of 1953 is given by the NY Association and that this followed the death of Davey Moore; however Moore died in 1963, not 1953, so some work still needs doing on the text to which the hook refers before it's up to DYK standard, I feel. Nick Moyes (talk) 20:32, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I have found another source that says it was designed to protect stricken fighters.  The C of E God Save the Queen!  ( talk ) 21:48, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Looking better. What do you think of ALT1? It's my preference - especially if you can specify which country/countries we're talking about?
 * I am OK with that.  The C of E God Save the Queen!  ( talk ) 06:38, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg OK, hook reference now explicit. Seems 'Good To Go' with ALT1
 * Symbol confirmed.svg OK, hook reference now explicit. Seems 'Good To Go' with ALT1