Template:Did you know nominations/Manfred Kirchheimer


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The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 18:27, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Manfred Kirchheimer

 * ... that Manfred Kirchheimer became a documentary filmmaker and professor after his family escaped Nazi Germany in 1936?
 * Reviewed: Éric Dewailly

Created by I am One of Many (talk). Self nominated at 22:38, 30 June 2014 (UTC).


 * Symbol question.svg Interesting article on good sources, impressive list of his works. Hook: the "escaped Nazi Germany" part needs an inline right behind it, technically. I would prefer to have a bit on his specific work besides the "escaped" ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:36, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I didn't much like the hook either, but I had trouble coming up with a good idea from the article. You have given me an idea, however.  How about
 * ALT1 ... that documentary filmmaker Manfred Kirchheimer made a film about graffiti on New York City subway trains?
 * I am One of Many (talk) 23:31, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Gerda Arendt, how do you like this hook? I am One of Many (talk) 17:27, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I like the idea, but think most readers will know graffiti and don't need the information that a filmmaker made a film ;) - Also, the word Nazi will probably get you 1000 extra clicks and should be kept. My try to say the same:
 * ALT2: ... that Manfred Kirchheimer, whose family escaped Nazi Germany, made a documentary film about graffiti on New York subway trains? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:33, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * That is a great hook, and I love your reasoning! I am One of Many (talk) 00:39, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * We still need the references about the escaping doubled to right after the sentence (I will do it now), and probably a different reviewer, but I see no problem.
 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg I don't want to approve my own hook. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:37, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * ALT3: ... that after escaping Nazi Germany Manfred Kirchheimer made a documentary film about graffiti on New York subway trains?

EEng (talk) 23:01, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Would be effective, but it was his family, he was to little for initiative, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:11, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
 * How about a tweak?
 * ALT4: ... that after his family escaped Nazi Germany, Manfred Kirchheimer made a documentary film about graffiti on New York subway trains?
 * I am One of Many (talk) 23:22, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Beautiful. EEng (talk) 03:52, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:31, 8 July 2014 (UTC)