Template:Did you know nominations/Manuel Antonio de Rivas

Manuel Antonio de Rivas
Created by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 02:38, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
 * ... that the Franciscan friar Manuel Antonio de Rivas, who was tried for heresy (and accused of sodomy) in 1775 in Mexico, wrote the first science-fiction text in the Americas?
 * I reviewed Tadeusz Szeligowski. Drmies (talk) 03:14, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg size, vintage and hook check out. Can't see any paraphrasing. Interesting hook. well done. Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:05, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
 * The result was: promoted by Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:14, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg I've returned this from prep as the the claim that he wrote the first science-fiction text in the Americas is not cited and the accessible sources that mention it either call it proto-science fiction or retro-labelled science fiction and don't claim it was the first. Also, the claim that he was tried for sodomy is dubious: he was accused of sodomy but the accusation was dropped early in the proceedings. Yomangani talk 16:45, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I've tweaked the hook. Tried or accused, that's semantics, but it should be clear now. That his was the first SF text is cited in Dziubinskyj, and I've added a footnote to the claim. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 17:31, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I've put it back in prep. I left out the parenthesised sodomy as it doesn't do much for the hook, but feel free to re-add it if you disagree. Yomangani talk 17:39, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, I think a friar, sodomy, heresy, and sci-fi is a winning combination, but I'm not about to go to war over it. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 19:19, 22 August 2011 (UTC)