Template:Did you know nominations/Mark Williams-Thomas

Mark Williams-Thomas

 * ... that Mark Williams-Thomas (pictured) researched and presented The Other Side of Jimmy Savile, an award-winning ITV Exposure documentary?

Created by Pigsonthewing (talk), Dan904 (talk), JSFarman (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 14:16, 21 November 2013 (UTC).


 * Comment: the article has a history of "articles for creation". Should former editors also get credit. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:21, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I added the other editors. They made substantive contributions, even if they were unable to get it published at that time. — Maile (talk) 21:07, 6 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I would not recommend using this image, unless someone can brighten it up a lot.  Rcsprinter    (barney)  @ 22:58, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Symbol possible vote.svg The length and date of mainspace move for this article both check out fine, but the hook is not appropriately referenced at the end of the sentence in the article. The next reference after the claim does not support it entirely.  Harrias  talk 16:37, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I doubled a few refs, please check, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:00, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Delving a bit deeper into the article, there appear to be copyvio issues:
 * Article: "He set up an independent child protection consultancy, WT Associates, in 2005. Since then, he has appeared regularly on Sky News, commenting on high-profile criminal investigations including the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and the case of Ipswich serial killer Steve Wright. Additionally, Williams-Thomas appears on ITV1's current affairs show Tonight and reports for BBC2's Newsnight and the ITV series On the Run."
 * Source: "He left the force in 2000 and set up an independent child protection firm, WT Associates, in 2005. Since then, Williams-Thomas has been a regular pundit on Sky News, commenting on high-profile criminal investigations including the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and the case of the Ipswich serial killer Steve Wright. His television work includes stints on ITV1's current affairs show Tonight and reports for BBC2's Newsnight." (}
 * I would recommend using the duplication detector to go through the article and look for further instances, as this was only the worst of what it picked up. Also, the very short penultimate paragraph is unreferenced, contrary to DYK guidelines.  Harrias  talk 17:27, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for checking, but I find it difficult to describe a sequence in a bio completely differently. I will refer this to the authors. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:36, 9 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I just did a drive-by edit to reword the section in question raised by Harrias and fixed the paraphrase. As I had never read the article before, nor the sources, I can promise that the rewrite was the best I could do, and uninfluenced by anything more than what was raised here.  As far as duplication detector goes, if someone else wants to run it (Harrias? Perhaps you would be the best to do so, in your role as reviewer), I would be glad to rewrite anything else that gets flagged.  Then the editors can review my work and be sure that I didn't depart too far in factual content from the source material. Just an outside eye here, willing to lend a hand.   Montanabw (talk) 22:36, 9 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I ran the Duplication Detector on each of the eight references. No issues came up on any of them. — Maile (talk) 00:31, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg In which case, the length, date and hook reference all check out fine. The image is appropriately referenced for the main page, and Maile has carried out the copyvio checks. Good to go.  Harrias  talk 14:40, 13 December 2013 (UTC)