Template:Did you know nominations/Mary Birdsall House


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The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 12:27, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Mary Birdsall House

 * ... that the Mary Birdsall House (pictured) in Richmond, Indiana, was home to the owner of the newspaper The Lily, after it was sold by Amelia Bloomer?
 * ALT1: ... that the Mary Birdsall House (pictured) was a retirement home operated by Quakers until it was given to Earlham College in 2010?

Created by InTheAM (talk). Self nominated at 22:53, 16 January 2015 (UTC).


 * Symbol question.svg Both hooks are properly sourced, so either would be fine. The article is new enough and has enough text.  I see no copyright issues with text or photo; it's written from a NPOV. You might want to think about adding the thumbnail photo of the house.  However, I can't seem to find information about the college's updating of the home's bedrooms and baths at the link. We hope (talk) 14:43, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Have removed the sentence about the college's remodeling as I've searched for other sources and didn't find any. The article seems fine without the sentence and is now ready to go! We hope (talk) 20:51, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg This needs to be reviewed again for possible close paraphrasing with the NRHP site; it seems like phrases are being copied and then switched around to not follow the same order that's in the source. Also, the hooks are a little weak. Yoninah (talk) 22:50, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg I agree that some of the phrasing is a bit close and could be reworded, or perhaps supplemented with an additional source. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:32, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Symbol possible vote.svg It has been two and a half weeks since the above notice from Nikkimaria, and a ping to the nominator's talk page. I've just added a new note there, giving one more week to respond here, after which time this nomination will likely close. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:53, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

, I have done some rewriting. Is it better? Victuallers Victuallers (talk) 13:36, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg Yes,, it is a lot better now, thanks. No close paraphrasing seen. I added a few more points from the source. Both hooks, though, are a little convoluted, packing in too much information. Would you like to suggest something simpler? I could suggest:
 * ALT2: ... that from 1927 to 2010, a Quaker society conducted prayer services in the parlor of the Mary Birdsall House (pictured)? Yoninah (talk) 21:33, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * ALT3: ... that the house where a leading campaigner for women's rights lived (pictured) is named for "Laura Moore"?
 * Thanks, how about alt3? Victuallers (talk) 22:50, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't know; it seems to be taking the spotlight off Mary Birdsall. Yoninah (talk) 23:15, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I added some more information from the source. How about:
 * ALT4: ... that the design of the house where a leading campaigner for women's rights lived (pictured) was said to be "technologically progressive, healthy, and emancipating"? Yoninah (talk) 23:32, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * That hook's fine by me Victuallers (talk) 13:21, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed to sign off on ALT4. Thank you, Yoninah (talk) 00:09, 18 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Yoninah, I went to review ALT4 and wasn't satisfied; I also didn't like the disappearance of Mary. Here are my suggestions:
 * ALT5: ... that the Mary Birdsall House (pictured), designed for a 19th-century leader in women's rights, was said to be "technologically progressive, healthy, and emancipating"?
 * ALT6: ... that the Mary Birdsall House (pictured), designed for a 19th-century leader in women's rights and her husband, was said to be "technologically progressive, healthy, and emancipating"?
 * I had initially wanted to include the Beecher sisters, especially Harriet, but couldn't come up with anything concise enough. I'm not sure whether we want the specificity of ALT6's added "and her husband" (though it was probably designed for the couple), but I thought I'd offer it anyway. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:49, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, BlueMoonset. ALT5 looks very good. I struck through all the other hooks that aren't being used. It's a little frustrating that the page nominator disappeared and Victuallers, you and I are left to push through this nomination on our own. Yoninah (talk) 08:24, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
 * You're welcome, Yoninah. Let's hope we can soon attract a new reviewer for the remaining hook. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:01, 21 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed to check the ALT5 hook. Many thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 00:01, 21 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Symbol confirmed.svg ALT5 is stated in the article and sourced. This being the only issue remaining, this is Good 2 Go. — Maile  (talk) 17:53, 21 March 2015 (UTC)