Template:Did you know nominations/Mary Chase Walker


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The result was: promoted by Vanamonde (talk) 09:48, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Mary Chase Walker

 * ... that Mary Chase Walker (pictured) was the first school teacher in San Diego, California?
 * Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mary Kitson Clark
 * Comment: Created during WikiConference North America editathon at Balboa Park. Quote and reference: "Mary Chase Walker Morse (1828-1899) - San Diego's First Teacher".

Created by Rosiestep (talk) and Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 01:53, 12 October 2016 (UTC).


 * Symbol question.svg Length (2319 characters) is adequate. It was nominated within 7 days. Article appears neutral and is adequately cited to apparently reliable sources. Earwig found no serious issues but there's a few phrases that could do with changing to distinguish from . Hook is concise, interesting & supported by the reference cited (and several others), but unfortunately the fact appears in doubt. Timeline of San Diego states "1795 – Public school opens" with the supporting ref stating against July 1795: "Manuel de Vargas, pioneer school teacher of the state, opens the first public school." This claim is repeated (uncited) in our article Education in California: "The first recorded school in California was opened in 1795 by Manuel de Vargas, a retired sergeant, in San Diego." QPQ done. Image is ok at the size and appears likely to be in the public domain. Espresso Addict (talk) 05:37, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I feel pretty good with this research that MCW was the San Diego's first teacher. I couldn't find gbooks which support Manuel de Vargas opening a school in San Diego, but I found this, placing him in San Jose. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:02, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
 * What do you make of ? "Manuel de Vargas - San Diego - $250 per annum - July 1795-Dec. 1798" & "Antonio Menendez - San Diego - $15 per month - Aug. 1828-Dec. 1829". Espresso Addict (talk) 06:02, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Going offline now, but via JSTOR from the LA Daily Times 1896: : "The first school in California was opened in San Jose in December, 1794, seventeen years after the founding of the Pueblo. / The pioneer teacher of California was Manuel de Vargas, a retired sergeant of infantry. The school was opened in the public granary. Vargas in 1795, was offered $250 a year to open a school in San Diego, and as this was higher wages than he was receiving, true to the instincts of the profession, he took it, and thus became the pioneer teacher of Southern California." (p1-2) ... "Vargas, the pioneer pedagogue, seems to have been somewhat of an educational tramp. We find him in 1798-99 teaching in Santa Barbara. With the close of the century he disappears from the educational field." (p8) There are other hits there for the name but I don't have time to go through them now. Espresso Addict (talk) 08:57, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
 * ALT1 ... that school teacher Mary Chase Walker (pictured) was boycotted in 1866 in San Diego, California, after lunching in public with a black woman? Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 03:14, 1 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Reviewer needed now that a new hook has been proposed. Should also check to be sure the close paraphrasing mentioned initially has been taken care of. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:10, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg This article is new enough and long enough. The ALT1 hook is cited inline, the image is in the public domain and the article is neutral. I did not find any evidence of close paraphrasing or other copyright issues. I added Mary Mark Ockerbloom to the credits. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:36, 3 December 2016 (UTC)