Template:Did you know nominations/Mary Ellen Cuper


 * The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as |this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Flibirigit (talk) 22:02, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Mary Ellen Cuper

 * ... that Mary Ellen Cuper was the first postmistress at New Norcia? Source: https://books.google.com/books?id=Ec-_BwAAQBAJ&dq=Mary+Ellen+Cuper&q=Mary+Ellen+Cuper#v=snippet&q=Mary%20Ellen%20Cuper&f=false
 * ALT1:... that Mary Ellen Cuper, who's father deserted her when she was a child, became the first postmistress at New Norcia? Source: https://books.google.com/books?id=Ec-_BwAAQBAJ&dq=Mary+Ellen+Cuper&q=Mary+Ellen+Cuper#v=snippet&q=Mary%20Ellen%20Cuper&f=false
 * Reviewed: Delvon Lamarr Organ Trio and Henry Harness Fout (I'm hoping to be able to review 2 DYKs per 1 nomination I make, to help reduce the backlog quicker)

Moved to mainspace by SkyGazer 512 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:40, 31 October 2018 (UTC).


 * Hey ; thanks for reviewing! Per WP:Did you know, Articles that have been worked on exclusively in a user or user talk subpage or at articles for creation or in the Draft namespace and then moved (or in some cases pasted) to the article mainspace are considered new as of the date they reach the mainspace. Although I created the article on October 12, 2018, it was in my userspace at the time. I moved it to the mainspace on 25 October 2018, which was 5 days ago, as shown here, so unless I'm missing something, the article should be new enough.
 * Hey ; thanks for reviewing! Per WP:Did you know, Articles that have been worked on exclusively in a user or user talk subpage or at articles for creation or in the Draft namespace and then moved (or in some cases pasted) to the article mainspace are considered new as of the date they reach the mainspace. Although I created the article on October 12, 2018, it was in my userspace at the time. I moved it to the mainspace on 25 October 2018, which was 5 days ago, as shown here, so unless I'm missing something, the article should be new enough.


 * In response to the page number thing, that is something I thought might be a concern. However, when searching the book in Google Books, you'll notice that the page numbers are apparently not provided on Google Books. Btw, I don't have this book, I'm just using the information available on Google Books. In case it helps for you personally, the first page in the result that shows up here is where I got this information from, but I'm not sure how to convey that in the article. As for the copyvio/close paraphrasing/plagiarism thing goes, which you put a question mark on but didn't comment on, the only things that show up in the Copyvio Detector are a quote, the words "he sent her a photograph," and "was born in 1847 at Bunbury, Western Australia," which can't really be paraphrased any further; although if you have any suggestions on how to do so, that would be much appreciated. Cheers, -- SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 03:40, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 * In case it helps,, the quotes confirming this are Because her mother had been deserted by Mary's European father, the government authorities considered that she was unable to bring up her daughter on her own and Mary Ellen is also renowned for being the first postmistress at New Norcia.-- SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 03:49, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Quite right you are! It appears I missed the page move in the article history. The 5x expansion is sufficiently new. The question mark appears for copyvio just because I hadn't filled it out yet, pending your response. As for the page number, one solution would be to add the chapter name to the citation and change the Google Books URL to link to the start of that chapter.  Ergo Sum  04:22, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, ! I've put the chapter name into the book reference and modified the link (in the article) so that it go to this, a search for "Mary Ellen Cuper" in the book; I don't know how to link to specific pages or chapters on Google Books. Do you think that would be good enough?-- SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 12:47, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 * For the purposes of DYK, that should be sufficient.  Ergo Sum  17:10, 31 October 2018 (UTC)