Template:Did you know nominations/Mary Sophia Hyde Rice


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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:57, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Mary Sophia Hyde Rice

 * ... that American missionary Mary Sophia Hyde Rice taught both Hawaii's last queen Liliʻuokalani and its only president Sanford B. Dole?
 * Reviewed: Brown-tail moth

Created by Penny Richards (talk) and KAVEBEAR (talk). Nominated by KAVEBEAR (talk) at 04:03, 13 August 2018 (UTC).


 * Symbol question.svg Interesting life, on good sources, accepted AGF what I can't see, no copyvio obvious. - The hook is fine, sweetly short and interesting, but shouldn't we say somehow future queen and future president? - A few questions for the article:
 * Do you think all readers know what a missionary is?
 * I think most English speaking reader would known. For those who don't know it would be a word like benefactor to look up in the dictionary not to explain in the article.
 * Mention which church in the article?
 * The source does not specify: https://books.google.com/books?id=P8TTHtvuubwC&pg=PA62.
 * Did she first teach the later president, or why is he mentioned first?
 * That is just the order used in the source: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/22643963/mary_sophia_hyde_rice_1906/
 * How do you feel about an infobox?
 * Added.
 * I normally like a separation of Career and Family, but am not so sure here.
 * "She was widowed." - Why not "Her husband died."? Just curious. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:10, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Changed.
 * Symbol voting keep.svg Thank you, also for expanding. Be prepared for the ERRORS people regarding "taught the president" when he wasn't president yet when she taught the person ;) - One more: the last para begins with a playground, and all "it" still mean a playground, no? Clarify preschool? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:50, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg The lead is too short. Please say something about her notability in the lead. Yoninah (talk) 23:33, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for expanding the lead. I just noticed on the talk page that about 1400 characters were copied from William Harrison Rice. While this does not affect the minimum 1500-character count for a new article, Wikipedia policy requires the placement of Template:Copied on both pages. Yoninah (talk) 01:00, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Done (not by me; I just checked and it was done, on both talk pages). Penny Richards (talk) 21:37, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes. Done. KAVEBEAR (talk) 02:03, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I like it but we better ask Yoninah. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:37, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
 * As I mentioned on Penny Richards' page, the Template:Copied was not adequately filled out. It needs to include the diffs showing what was copied and when. Yoninah (talk) 10:52, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Added but I do not think this is not a part of the DYK criteria process. KAVEBEAR (talk) 15:13, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg it certainly is part of the DYK review process, if you don't want a comment at WT:DYK. I edited the template, but it's not working so well for me either. Restoring tick per Gerda Arendt's review. Yoninah (talk) 23:47, 3 September 2018 (UTC)