Template:Did you know nominations/Max Deutsch


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The result was: promoted by  Jolly  Ω   Janner  06:47, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Max Deutsch

 * ... that Max Deutsch was a composer, conductor, and music teacher, who purposefully destroyed all of his compositions, so that his only surviving legacy would be his students?


 * Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Saimaluu Tash

5x expanded by 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Doug Coldwell (talk) at 22:21, 2 January 2016 (UTC).


 * Symbol question.svg 5x expansion verified. New enough, long enough, adequately referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. However, a number of paragraphs lack any citations, per DYK rules. The designation of Deutsch as a "composer, conductor, and music teacher" in the hook is also not sourced. (It doesn't matter if it's not sourced in the lead, but it does matter if you include it in the hook.) Also, while your hook is elegantly written, it doesn't really reflect the source, which, as you've quoted it, says, "The composer Max Deutsch mercilessly destroyed his musical scores, having chosen to leave no trace other than teaching". QPQ done. Yoninah (talk) 01:00, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

"* Comment. Thanks for your initial review.  Per your request, I added additional sources for every paragraph and to support the fact that he was a "composer, conductor and music teacher."
 * I also thought that the hook was an elegant and fair reading of
 * But apparently you disagree.
 * Is there alternative wording that you would suggest? 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 16:17, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * ALT1 ... that Max Deutsch was a composer, conductor, and music teacher, who mercilessly destroyed his compositions, so that his only surviving legacy would be his students? 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 16:31, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * ALT2 ... that music teacher, composer, and conductor Max Deutsch intentionally destroyed his compositions so that his only surviving legacy would be his students? --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:05, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Yoninah (talk) Are we getting closer? 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎</b>) 19:45, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * My "shortcut" (don't say it all...):
 * ALT3 ... that Max Deutsch intentionally destroyed his compositions so that his only surviving legacy would be his students? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:07, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * As originator of ALT2 I prefer ALT3, as it is simplier (which is usually better) AND it has only 1 link for viewers to hit (better also).--Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:16, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I too am good with ALT3. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 20:19, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Symbol voting keep.svg OK, I defer to consensus. ALT3 is very good; offline hook ref AGF and cited inline. All paragraphs have citations and no close paraphrasing seen. ALT3 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:35, 12 January 2016 (UTC)