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Meadowbrook State Parkway

 * ... that the Meadowbrook State Parkway is dedicated in honor of the New York State Senator who sponsored the first bill in the United States requiring seat belts while driving?
 * Reviewed: Ruth Lawanson
 * Comment: First DYK nomination in a year and a half (since Harriman (Erie Railroad station)), hopefully it works this time around. (I'm nearing my 50th, lost count some time ago.) – Trying for 5x expansion (was 2,154 characters, is now over 11,100).

Created/expanded by Mitchazenia (talk). Self nom at 21:52, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
 * ALT1 ... that the Meadowbrook State Parkway is dedicated in honor of the New York State Senator Norman J. Levy who sponsored the first bill in the United States requiring seat belts while driving? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RFD (talk • contribs) 00:30, 22 August 2012


 * Comment: I left out the name on purpose for character size. Do we seriously need it? Mitch 32 (There is a destiny that makes us... family.) 02:11, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
 * ALT2 ... that the Meadowbrook State Parkway is dedicated in honor of Norman J. Levy, the New York State Senator who sponsored the first bill in the United States requiring seat belts while driving?
 * The Levy article was created by and expanded by myself to the minimum 1500 characters. It can be included in the hook as a second nomination if desired. I've added a better (IMHO) version of the double hook.  Imzadi 1979   →   03:04, 22 August 2012 (UTC) (Just in case, I reviewed Jeff Civillico in case I need a QPQ credit to add my nomination of the Levy article to this hook.  Imzadi 1979   →   03:41, 22 August 2012 (UTC))
 * Symbol question.svg quality article on the parkway, the senator also meets the requirements. The hook: for a first time reader it is puzzling the Levy's name is not in the parkway's name, and that opening and dedication dates differ, - can that be clarified? - The pic is free, but nothing special. - Also, the second article and second author are not yet in the credit templates, can you handle that? (Please just add, don't move the nomination.) - The extra review is not needed but appreciated ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:58, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * For all intents and purposes, its still the Meadowbrook State Parkway officially. The parkway opened in 1934, the dedication was in 1998. I'm not templated oriented, so someone else has to do this for me. Mitch 32 (Victim of public education, 17 years and counting) 02:40, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Can you phase that, opening vs dedication year? The second article and its author are now in the template. If that author also contributed substantially to the Parkway, as it reads above, that is not yet in, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:07, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Do you mean in the article or in the DYK hook? The dates are used in the parkway article. Mitch 32 (Victim of public education, 17 years and counting) 10:11, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
 * As a NY local doing a little drive-by on this, I can confirm that it's still called the Meadowbrook State Parkway, and I would've never known the name "Norman J. Levy" if not for the fact that there are some signs displaying his name along the highway. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:03, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * In the hook, please, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:02, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * ALT3 ... that the Meadowbrook State Parkway was dedicated in 1998 in the honor of Norman J. Levy, the New York State Senator who sponsored the first bill in the United States requiring seat belts while driving? Mitch 32 (Victim of public education, 17 years and counting) 21:06, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I may have a language problem, English is not my first language, but I find "dedicated in 1998 in the honor" unclear. What I understand is the following:
 * ALT4 ... that since 1998, signs along the Meadowbrook State Parkway honor New York State Senator Norman J. Levy who sponsored the first bill in the United States requiring seat belts while driving? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:25, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I think a third opinion is wise at this point. Mitch 32 (Victim of public education, 17 years and counting) 21:30, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I have a suggestion for an ALT5, but all of these ALTs require corresponding inline citations after each particular sentence that contains hook facts, and this must be done for both articles (e.g., in the Norman J. Levy article, there must be a cite after "Levy sponsored New York's mandatory seatbelt law which was the first one in the United States.") before the nomination can be approved. I did change "bill" to "law", because we don't know that there weren't earlier bills, but the articles indicate this was the first bill signed into law, and the hook's a trimmer 185 characters. I don't think specific mention of the signs is necessary.
 * ALT5 ... that the Meadowbrook State Parkway was rededicated in 1998 to memorialize Norman J. Levy, the New York State Senator who sponsored the first U.S. law requiring seat belts while driving? —BlueMoonset (talk) 15:12, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the suggestion, I could live with that, although "rededicate" and "memorialize" are both a bit on the complicated side. If the authors agree and supply the required sourcing, I will approve, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:11, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Rededicated doesn't make any sense. The parkway was never dedicated in the honor of anyone else. I'd rather use dedicate and in memoriam to be honest. Mitch 32 (Victim of public education, 17 years and counting) 00:02, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * what do you think of
 * ALT6 ... that the Meadowbrook State Parkway was dedicated in 1998 in memory of Norman J. Levy, the New York State Senator who sponsored the first U.S. law requiring seat belts while driving? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:23, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * That I am fine with. (Albeit this is the first time I think I've ever seen an ALT6 before.) Mitch 32 (Victim of public education, 17 years and counting) 12:15, 12 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Symbol confirmed.svg only for ALT6 (See here for an ALT9, the record I remember.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:46, 12 September 2012 (UTC)