Template:Did you know nominations/Miasto Kobiet

Miasto Kobiet
Created/expanded by Pikks (talk). Self nom at 13:22, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
 * ... that Polish magazine Miasto Kobiet organizes Szafobranie, a recurring event in which people give and get clothes without exchanging money?


 * Comment: As per Did you know, DYK requires all used images to be freely licensed. Fair use image removed from nomination. --Allen3 talk 17:20, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. I think the hook needs more context (at least it should state that Miasto Kobiet is a women's magazine and that the event is in Poland), is a bit unidiomatic, and may be of too local interest. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:42, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree with you, however don't you think that a too long hook can be "too long" to read? --  ★ Pikks ★  MsG  18:50, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Symbol possible vote.svg DYKcheck gives 1242 characters, under the required 1500, but does not include the bulleted list of events, which would make the article long enough. As that list is mostly prose, it would seem to me to be reasonable to count it, but I'm fairly new at reviewing so there could be reasons why it isn't. However, the author can undo the list and format as simple paragraphs, if it becomes necessary.
 * (Later addition: a quick check indicates 1741 characters by simply deleting the bullets and making each of the three items its own paragraph. I would very much appreciate an opinion from an experienced reviewer.) BlueMoonset (talk) 20:33, 26 December 2011 (UTC)


 * AGF for reference citations, as they are all Polish. The article has a copyedit tag, and definitely needs one before this DYK can pass. I'll make a start right away, but other work is needed: there are some things I do not understand, such as the use of "feuilleton", which does not make sense in context given the Wikipedia (linked) definition, and why the infobox lists "ETNA (Poland)" as the Editor—would this be the Publisher?—when the lede says Aneta Pondo is the editor-in-chief.


 * The "Topic" section header doesn't seem appropriate, as the section covers not only the magazine contents but the editorial staff. Someone better versed than I in magazine articles would have a better idea of how to organize the article.


 * Although the hook is short enough and the key points referenced in the text, I agree that it needs more context; it also requires editing for formatting and punctuation to be acceptable. A suggestion, which leaves out "women's" because you don't want to unhook half your audience from the start:
 * ALT1: ... that Polish magazine Miasto Kobiet organizes Szafobranie, a recurring event in which people give and get clothes without exchanging money?


 * Pictogram voting keep.svg Article was newly created two days before submission; DYKcheck counts 1741 characters, above the minimum 1500; article is neutral and cites Polish sources (AGF). ALT1 hook is 142 characters, hook is interesting and cites sources (again AGF) and is neutral. Original hook is less interesting; if ALT1 is not acceptable to author, recommend an ALT2 be created. No QPQ needed (third submission only). BlueMoonset (talk) 22:43, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The author agreed to ALT1 and changed the hook accordingly. -- ★ Pikks ★  MsG  22:53, 26 December 2011 (UTC)