Template:Did you know nominations/Murtada Sharif 'Askari


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The result was: rejected by BenLinus  1214 talk 03:06, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Murtada Sharif 'Askari

 * ... that Murtada Sharif 'Askari demonstrated Abdullah Ibn Saba and 150 (So called) Companions, whom many assumed were indisputable truth and reality, had no proof of their being real?


 * ALT1:... that Murtada Sharif 'Askari in his book discussed 150 people who never existed, yet were believed by many to be the companions of Islamic prophet?



Created by Munifi3nt (talk). Self-nominated at 18:56, 28 May 2015 (UTC).


 * Article is barely comprehensible so is very far from appearing on mainspace. Recommend the nominator to request copyedit of article at WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests. Cowlibob (talk) 04:12, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Page has been copyedited by Wikimandia. Munifi3nt (talk) 17:44, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Withdraw objection. Looks much better, thanks Wikimandia. This is not even close to my subject area. Ready for new review. Cowlibob (talk) 01:02, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * please tell me what should I do? I am new here. Munifi3nt (talk) 08:19, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh the above icon means that I have left it open for someone else to review so it's like a fresh nomination. So you just have to wait for someone else to come along and review it. Cowlibob (talk) 16:30, 31 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Symbol question.svg Per Sockpuppet investigations/Srahmadi, this user has been identified as a sockpuppet of Srahmadi, a user whose articles have had copyvio and neutrality issues, and has been permanently blocked. (DYK nomination under previous sockpuppets have also had issues.) As this has received a copyedit by Wikimandia, the article may now be free of copyvio and neutrality issues, though the supposedly "new" author would appear to be have been quite experienced. Wikimandia, are you satisfied that the sources are reliable as well? If so, then this probably can go forward, though a review may find other DYK issues... BlueMoonset (talk) 07:14, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * In light of that info, I would recommend this article be thoroughly checked by a neutral editor fluent in Persian before it is approved for DYK. I only copyedited to perfect the English. While I did look at cited material, I did no check whatsoever to determine if these are indeed reliable sources. I AGF on behalf of nominator that these were RS. Nor did I search to see if there is any scholarly criticism of him that should be included. For all I know, his work was discredited or who knows.  —Мандичка YO 😜 07:34, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * The hook in particular, and the claim it is based on, looks like classic Shia propaganda, unless it can be backed up by reliable sources. As you can glean from Sahabah, Shiites tend to vilify the companions of Muhammad who were not blood-related to him, while Sunnis tend to hold them in reverence. Funny "coincidence", then, that a book making allegations against 150 companions of Muhammad would come out of the world's predominant Shiite theocracy. See also this long discussion about the use of Iranian sources in general.--Anders Feder (talk) 08:33, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Yikes, I'm so ignorant about the differences in Shia vs Sunni Islam. This DYK should be declined, as the hook is propaganda. —Мандичка YO 😜 08:50, 14 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Symbol delete vote.svg Hook unsuitable per Wikimandia and Anders Feder; since this was submitted by a blocked sockpuppet and one who writes articles with neutrality issues, this is being closed as unsuccessful. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:47, 14 June 2015 (UTC)