Template:Did you know nominations/No Land's Song


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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:30, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

No Land's Song

 * ... that the documentary film No Land's Song spotlights women's protests against an Iranian ban on public female solo singing before male audiences?


 * Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Alcohol in Afghanistan

Created by Alifatehighahfarokhi (talk) and 7&6=thirteen (talk). Nominated by 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 15:52, 10 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg This article was in need of a copyedit, so I gave it one. I request another reviewer takes a look at this, and see whether the prose meets the required standard now. —♦♦  AMBER  (ЯʘCK)  20:33, 8 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Reply
 * Hook reference I don't understand your comment about the hook. You say: "this is the closest cited material I can find to back up the hook, but it doesn't mean the same thing."  The article states: "In the wake of the revolution of 1979, the new regime forbids women in Iran to sing publicly as soloists in front of men."  Another source state: "In the concert she dedicates her solo to the Iranian youth from the Tunisian youth. Instead of a celebration of the female voice, it seems to have become a much more obvious act of rebellion."  It is now in line cited to at least these three sources:
 * Citations Every paragraph is now cited.
 * Balance I have not been able to find negative reviews, so theoretical "balance" may not be achievable, and has noting to do with WP:DYK criteria. I did add some text about the purported religious justification for the ban, which provides more context.
 * Length Removing the table from the calculations (I don't want to destroy the table as it makes the article better), I still get 3423 2959 characters of readable prose, which is more than twice the standard and way more than enough.  The article lists at over 10,383 bytes, but obviously that doesn't count.  I also know that references don't count. However, the section "Reception" is prose, not poetry and not a table, infobox or reference. I sent you an e-mail with the text I used to calculate the number. Maybe you dropped a section?
 * Fair use I cut the NY Times review in half.
 * Other problem Cut out the "other problem."
 * Query Are we good to go yet? 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 11:56, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg Article is now at 1,496 characters, which is good enough for me (also see my final comments). Every paragraph has at least one citation. The New York Times review is probably not overly quoted any more. There's still a sentence in the synopsis which says "Will they succeed?" without quotation marks and its presence is confusing; are we talking to the reader of our article? It's a minor point and I won't hold it against a DYK tick. The hook is now covered in the article in the first paragraph of synopsis and with a verified inline citation. I would also like to address a couple of points raised by the nominator to help in future DYK processes. User:Shubinator/DYKcheck is a tool often used to assess the size of DYK nominations and it does not include lists as prose. In the case of this article the reception section was a combination of prose but in the format of a list, so I suggested converting it entirely into prose to not only satisfy any doubts in the charachter count, but also to improve the manual of style. The article's content which backs up the hook originaly had no citation in the paragraph at all. I understand this was likely a result of a copyedit that occured post-nomination, so understand why this caused confusion. Thanks for the work of everyone involved in this article. Regards,  Jolly  Ω   Janner  04:56, 11 March 2016 (UTC)